Libertarians; Useful Idiots?

"For the record, I don't support forcing a woman to carry a rapists child."

Bullshit, you always were before!

But OTOH, I guess I shouldn't call bullshit just because you changed your position when publically backed into a corner (it is in no way a measure of any one's definition of "Freedom" to hold that position). I should instead congratulate you. Welcome to the civilized world.

Baby steps, baby steps.
 
Really interesting piece by Krugman. Regarding the title? When you reveal yourselves to be a bunch of whiny assed little titty babies, you are begging for it. Be A Man! :)

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/26/opinion/krugman-lobbyists-guns-and-money.html?_r=1&hp#

Florida’s now-infamous Stand Your Ground law, which lets you shoot someone you consider threatening without facing arrest, let alone prosecution, sounds crazy — and it is. And it’s tempting to dismiss this law as the work of ignorant yahoos. But similar laws have been pushed across the nation, not by ignorant yahoos but by big corporations.

Is being a libertarian USEFUL idiot worse than being a Democratic USELESS idiot? Inquiring minds want to know ....
 
not only do you NOT know Libertarianism, you don't know Libertarians. I also support womens freedom.

I'm happy to hear it! I wonder why I didn't know it before? Maybe it's because you have never argued with the "Libertarians" 3D and Superfreak when they have posted their positions on this subject. Maybe if you talked about more than guns STY, more people would be exposed to a different kind of Libertarian than they are used to. That could be a good thing!
 
If most LIbertarians are pro-choice, as the two staunchly anti-choice self-described Libertarians 3D and SF are claiming, you'd never know it from talking to them on the internet.

Let's not forget that the Libertarian's hero, Ron Paul, is also staunchly anti-choice.

But you can just throw that claim out there, cause, you know, you're menz and all. That automatically makes it an authoritative claim.
 
"For the record, I don't support forcing a woman to carry a rapists child."

Bullshit, you always were before!

But OTOH, I guess I shouldn't call bullshit just because you changed your position when publically backed into a corner (it is in no way a measure of any one's definition of "Freedom" to hold that position). I should instead congratulate you. Welcome to the civilized world.

Baby steps, baby steps.

Yes baby steps... one day you will hopefully stop celebrating a woman's 'right' to jab a metal spike in a babies head to avoid the inconvenience of having to accept responsibility for choices made by her and her partner. One day you might just become human enough to want to protect the innocent child.
 
I'm happy to hear it! I wonder why I didn't know it before? Maybe it's because you have never argued with the "Libertarians" 3D and Superfreak when they have posted their positions on this subject. Maybe if you talked about more than guns STY, more people would be exposed to a different kind of Libertarian than they are used to. That could be a good thing!

MORE than guns? do you not read my posts about cop accountability? or police brutality? Fourth Amendment issues? How about the ones on the patriot act or indefinite detention? maybe I didn't post enough times about those. i'll start doing lots more on those subjects, just for you, and i'll PM you the thread links. ok?
 
If most LIbertarians are pro-choice, as the two staunchly anti-choice self-described Libertarians 3D and SF are claiming, you'd never know it from talking to them on the internet.

Let's not forget that the Libertarian's hero, Ron Paul, is also staunchly anti-choice.

But you can just throw that claim out there, cause, you know, you're menz and all. That automatically makes it an authoritative claim.

If you ever bothered to read what people actually write, rather than continue living in your fantasy world, you would realize that I have stated many times that I am not Libertarian due in part to their anti-life position. I prefer to be pro-life. Protecting the rights of the individual should be the first priority. Convenience a distant second.
 
MORE than guns? do you not read my posts about cop accountability? or police brutality? Fourth Amendment issues? How about the ones on the patriot act or indefinite detention? maybe I didn't post enough times about those. i'll start doing lots more on those subjects, just for you, and i'll PM you the thread links. ok?

LOL No i have definitely seen those!
 
If you ever bothered to read what people actually write, rather than continue living in your fantasy world, you would realize that I have stated many times that I am not Libertarian due in part to their anti-life position. I prefer to be pro-life. Protecting the rights of the individual should be the first priority. Convenience a distant second.

I actually clicked on "view post" to read this one. Wow, this is quite a load.

I don't know how many people here have amnesia, but just last week SF personally attacked me, in a pretty nasty manner, and his stated reason for doing was because I had personally attacked him by attacking LIbertarians!!!!

This week, he is not even a LIbertarian at all, and only a moron like me who can't read would think he was!

LOL

Yeah, I think you need at least another week or two on IA. Have a nice April SF.
 
I actually clicked on "view post" to read this one. Wow, this is quite a load.

I don't know how many people here have amnesia, but just last week SF personally attacked me, in a pretty nasty manner, and his stated reason for doing was because I had personally attacked him by attacking LIbertarians!!!!

This week, he is not even a LIbertarian at all, and only a moron like me who can't read would think he was!

LOL

Yeah, I think you need at least another week or two on IA. Have a nice April SF.

You attacked Libertarians/Conservatives/Republicans in your warped rantings. You lumped them all together or have you already forgotten? As I stated and you once again ignored, outside of that issue I agree with most Libertarian views. One of which is protecting the individual and a more limited federal government. That is the position you attacked.

You should stay on IA for a few years... maybe that way it will give you time to regain your senses. Instead of going off on your nonsensical, 'I said it therefore it must be true' rants on topics you have no clue about.
 
Yeah dude, it was tragic. You have to realise the Celtics were the golden boys at the time, and Len was their next great hope.

I actually vaguely remember this. Cawacko you're right and I shouldn't be encouraging the kids here to do coke! It is true that if God forbid you have an underlying, undiagnosed, abnormality in your heart, you could die from it even when you are young. So that is a risk you take. No doubt.
 
If most LIbertarians are pro-choice, as the two staunchly anti-choice self-described Libertarians 3D and SF are claiming, you'd never know it from talking to them on the internet.

Let's not forget that the Libertarian's hero, Ron Paul, is also staunchly anti-choice.

But you can just throw that claim out there, cause, you know, you're menz and all. That automatically makes it an authoritative claim.

Point of order. Paul is PERSONALLY against abortion. He doesn't believe it is in the scope of the federal governments power however, to decide one way or another.
 
They convinced him not to sign the lead sinker standard prohibiting anglers from using lead sinkers in public waterways.

And? Mott, for someone so into enviromentle science I would expect better on that in the 1st place, but more to the point, how the fuck is that a 'significant' policy?
 
not only do you NOT know Libertarianism, you don't know Libertarians. I also support womens freedom.

C'mon STY, lighten up. Didn't you just post the following threads in the past few days? Those generalization means you don't know Liberalism, or liberals.

so liberals, where's your apology now????

liberal hypocrisy over the trayvon martin shooting

liberals don't care about black men, just the agenda
 
C'mon STY, lighten up. Didn't you just post the following threads in the past few days? Those generalization means you don't know Liberalism, or liberals.

so liberals, where's your apology now????

liberal hypocrisy over the trayvon martin shooting

liberals don't care about black men, just the agenda

LOL, wrong. I see all the liberals doing just what i've said. Darla see's one libertarian against freedom in a certain area and suddenly ALL libertarians are against freedom.
 
LOL, wrong. I see all the liberals doing just what i've said. Darla see's one libertarian against freedom in a certain area and suddenly ALL libertarians are against freedom.

LOL, can't you see you are doing exactly what you are accusing Darla of doing?
 
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