Lead by example...

Superfreak said:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-04-13/obamas-paid-20-5-tax-on-789-674-in-2011-income.html

Here Obama had a chance to lead by example. To show the rest of those evilz wealthy people that it was ok to pay 30%. yet, like all wealthy liberals who harp on 'the rich should pay more'... Obama didn't.

To be clear: Yes, I know he did not HAVE to. Yes, I know he did not do anything illegal.

The point is quite simply, put up or shut up.
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I think paying a 20% rate while donating 20% of their income to charity is pretty damn good example to set. But that's just me.
 
Onceler said:
Seriously?
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Yes, he seriously failed to lead by example. Why do liberals appear all shocked when this is brought up?

He is out campaigning on the rich should pay more, yet he doesn't lead by example. The same thing other wealthy liberals fail to do.

If they are so adamant on the rich paying more... what is stopping them from leading by example?

Or is it that liberals think the law must be passed first to force every rich person to pay it together?
 
Superfreak said:
Yes, he seriously failed to lead by example. Why do liberals appear all shocked when this is brought up?

He is out campaigning on the rich should pay more, yet he doesn't lead by example. The same thing other wealthy liberals fail to do.

If they are so adamant on the rich paying more... what is stopping them from leading by example?

Or is it that liberals think the law must be passed first to force every rich person to pay it together?
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You sound like the average BDSer who thought Bush should have sent his kids to Iraq.

As DH points out, he gave a ton to charity as well. And the Buffett rule is for incomes over $1 million.

You're a smart poster, SF - but when it comes to all things Obama, your intellect takes a back seat....
 
Onceler said:
You sound like the average BDSer who thought Bush should have sent his kids to Iraq.
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Bullshit. Bush had no ability to force his adult children to enlist.

Obama controls how much he pays above and beyond his tax liability.

As DH points out, he gave a ton to charity as well. And the Buffett rule is for incomes over $1 million.

You're a smart poster, SF - but when it comes to all things Obama, your intellect takes a back seat....
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Give me a break, your knee jerk 'must defend Obama' is where intellect goes out the window.

His giving to charity is irrelevant to his tax liability.

I know you all think saint Obama should never be criticized, but this is one of his major campaign pushes. He may be under the million dollar threshold of the Buffet rule, but that shouldn't stop him from leading the charge. He is wealthy... he can pay his 'fair share'.
 
Superfreak said:
Bullshit. Bush had no ability to force his adult children to enlist.

Obama controls how much he pays above and beyond his tax liability.



Give me a break, your knee jerk 'must defend Obama' is where intellect goes out the window.

His giving to charity is irrelevant to his tax liability.

I know you all think saint Obama should never be criticized, but this is one of his major campaign pushes. He may be under the million dollar threshold of the Buffet rule, but that shouldn't stop him from leading the charge. He is wealthy... he can pay his 'fair share'.
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Sorry, but there is no other way to say it: ODS.

These kinds of threads just make you look foolish.
 
Superfreak said:
LMAO... good. Then you should promote that. Run it up your masters flagpole.

Because a lot of wealthy people who Obama is demanding 'pay more' also contribute to charities.
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Nice massive SuperFail. Why don't you now link to Romney paying a 25% lower rate than Obama? :palm: idiot
 
no surprise the two biggest obama apologist come to his defense over this. it is outright hypocritical and not leading by example. how can you defend obama saying the rich should pay more....taxes....when he doesn't. he is not about charity, he is talking about taxes. nice red herring.
 
Yurt said:
no surprise the two biggest obama apologist come to his defense over this. it is outright hypocritical and not leading by example. how can you defend obama saying the rich should pay more....taxes....when he doesn't. he is not about charity, he is talking about taxes. nice red herring.
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See this, Freak? This is the crowd you're in w/ on threads like this. "Outright hypocritical"...I mean, my goodness!
 
Yurt said:
no surprise the two biggest obama apologist come to his defense over this. it is outright hypocritical and not leading by example. how can you defend obama saying the rich should pay more....taxes....when he doesn't. he is not about charity, he is talking about taxes. nice red herring.
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He will pay more in taxes if it becomes law, but why should he pay more if it is legally required? He wishes to raise the rates on his own tax bracket, it is more than most are willing to do.
 
Rana said:
He will pay more in taxes if it becomes law, but why should he pay more if it is legally required? He wishes to raise the rates on his own tax bracket, it is more than most are willing to do.
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if i'm telling people to eat healthier, and then i gorge on junk food everyday...is that leading by example...given i am not legally required to eat healthy?
 
Rana said:
He will pay more in taxes if it becomes law, but why should he pay more if it is legally required? He wishes to raise the rates on his own tax bracket, it is more than most are willing to do.
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Careful - Yurt might trump this with his devastating "how dumb can you get" rejoinder...
 
Onceler said:
See this, Freak? This is the crowd you're in w/ on threads like this. "Outright hypocritical"...I mean, my goodness!
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and once again onceler doesn't debate, rather solely attacks the person. how is not hypocritical? let's see the apologist try and explain that instead of deflecting and defending obama at every turn.
 
Onceler said:
Nice false analogy....
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how so? you're really showing some serious intelligence here....LOL

if i'm telling people to eat healthier, and then i gorge on junk food everyday...is that leading by example...given i am not legally required to eat healthy?

if i'm telling people that rich folks like myself should pay more taxes, and then i do not...is that leading by example...given i am not legally required to pay more taxes?

it is a great analogy lost on feeble minds like yours.
 
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