Ann Romney Has No Dignity?

Darla said:
Huh?

He said they need to get jobs so they can experience the dignity of work.
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work outside the home. he didn't say staying at home is without dignity. you can have dignity staying at home or outside the home. he merely wants to help them have that option if they want. you're completely distorting what he said.
 
Yurt said:
work outside the home. he didn't say staying at home is without dignity. you can have dignity staying at home or outside the home. he merely wants to help them have that option if they want. you're completely distorting what he said.
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He said they need to get jobs so the can experience the dignity of work. now, I happen to agree that when we speak of work we are speaking of paid work. And that it goes without saying.

HOWEVER, Ann Romney said that's not true. That we are speaking of stay at home moms when we speak of "work". She said that Hillary Rosen said that she had never worked. I do believe Rosen meant worked outside of the home. But that definition of the phrase got taken off the table. By Ann Romney. You don't get it both ways. Sorry.

Mitt Romney said that stay at home moms need to get jobs if they want dignity.
 
Darla said:
He said they need to get jobs so the can experience the dignity of work. now, I happen to agree that when we speak of work we are speaking of paid work. And that it goes without saying.

HOWEVER, Ann Romney said that's not true. That we are speaking of stay at home moms when we speak of "work". She said that Hillary Rosen said that she had never worked. I do believe Rosen meant worked outside of the home. But that definition of the phrase got taken off the table. By Ann Romney. You don't get it both ways. Sorry.

Mitt Romney said that stay at home moms need to get jobs if they want dignity.
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bullshit. quote mitt saying that. quote him saying there is not dignity staying at home. ann never said that either. good lord, you are usually not this hackish.
 
Yurt said:
work outside the home. he didn't say staying at home is without dignity. you can have dignity staying at home or outside the home. he merely wants to help them have that option if they want. you're completely distorting what he said.
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What's really funny is that Yurt doesn't see what he just did here.

He just defended Hillary Rosen.

You don't get it both ways. If that's what "work" means when Mitt Romney uses it about stay at home moms, that's what work means when Rosen used it.

Thanks Yurt! I couldn't agree more! Who will tell the Romneys? In fact, who in hell is going to tell Damo?
 
Damocles said:
Can you show me a time I actually supported any of the candidates without saying, "I will support whomever the candidate is."? Because I'll tell you that has always been my position. I have told you why I believe that this President needs to be a one-termer and that I will support whomever the candidate is.
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Even if they suck, that is how we got Bush 43. Thanks for nothing.
 
Rana said:
This cracks me up, democrats don't value your wife, what a crock, and it looks like you ate this pile of road apples up with relish.

I know you aren't this stupid, seriously.
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I'll tell you, only democrats have yet to try to tell me that my wife has less value because of her career choice. I've been told that she "had it easy" because we aren't poor, but then I've been told that I am "putting on airs" because we aren't rich. I've been told that other people "just don't have that option".

Almost nothing I have heard from Democrats in regard to our choice (yeah we made it together and stuff) to have one of us stay at home (whomever was making less at the time, and believe me it was close, had I not been promoted close to birth I would be the on scene parent).

They say they value her, but their actions and what they do denies that. While, contrariwise, from republicans I have only heard support for my wife, an understanding that it has value.

I say that because of what I experience, both here and in my life. Democrats do not value my wife, they hold only scorn for choosing to hold a traditional role. Often they believe that I somehow "forced" her to make this choice. She's told me that some people have approached her to advocate she "stop doing what he says" and return to work... They do not even believe she may have chosen this and that together we believe it is valuable.
 
Rana said:
Even if they suck, that is how we got Bush 43. Thanks for nothing.
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Not even close. I think Clinton was a pretty decent President. We got Bush 43 because Gore was a crappy campaigner who couldn't even win his home state.
 
Damocles said:
I'll tell you, only democrats have yet to try to tell me that my wife has less value because of her career choice. I've been told that she "had it easy" because we aren't poor, but then I've been told that I am "putting on airs". I've been told that other people "just don't have that option" on and on.

Almost nothing I have heard from Democrats in regard to our choice (yeah we made it together and stuff) to have one of us stay at home (whomever was making less at the time, and believe me it was close, had I not been promoted close to birth I would be the on scene parent).

They say they value her, but their actions and what they say deny that. While, contrariwise, from republicans I have only heard support for my wife, an understanding that it has value.

I say that because of what I experience, both here and in my life. Democrats do not value my wife, they hold only scorn for choosing to hold a traditional role. Often they believe that I somehow "forced" her to make this choice. She's told me that some people have approached her to advocate she "stop doing what he says" and return to work... They do not even believe she may have chosen this and that together we believe it is valuable.
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LMAO. I said that Ann Romney had it easy because she is incredibly wealthy. I did not say you had it easy, or your wife had it easy, because you're not poor.

As for the rest of this, it's very self-pitying, but if you and your wife value your choices, what do you give a shit what others think? DO you have any idea of the things people say about my choices? I am childless single woman. There is no creature less valued by our culture. I couldn't care less. I love my choices. I'm very happy. I don't need to be a martyr or cry about what others say. I am too busy enjoying my life and my choices. I don't think happy people really get all that involved in what others may or may not think about them or their lives. Just my opinion based on my own experiences.
 
Darla said:
LMAO. I said that Ann Romney had it easy because she is incredibly wealthy. I did not say you had it easy, or your wife had it easy, because you're not poor.
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It's not all about you Darla, unless you truly believe that you are the only Democrat I know.

As for the rest of this, it's very self-pitying, but if you and your wife value your choices, what do you give a shit what others think? DO you have any idea of the things people say about my choices? I am childless single woman. There is no creature less valued by our culture. I couldn't care less. I love my choices. I'm very happy. I don't need to be a martyr or cry about what others say. I am too busy enjoying my life and my choices. I don't think happy people really get all that involved in what others may or may not think about them or their lives. Just my opinion based on my own experiences.
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I give a turd about it because often they try to use it, like here, to dismiss the contribution of a stay at home mother as "easy". Would you believe she "had it easy" if she were a Lawyer? Did you act this way about Kerry's lovely wife who was what? Somebody who gave away money for a living? I'm not sure what you are saying here.

It's the fact that Democrats constantly try to use the fact that some people make this choice as a reason to dismiss their opinions, as Hillary Rosen did. She "never held a job"... I say she did.
 
Darla said:
No actually, it was Ann Romney who fired that shot.

As for my playing class warfare, of course anyone who ever points out the class war that has been successfully waged by the rich against the rest of us, is using class warfare. It's all very Orwellian and you guys have it all figured out, I know. I don't think it'll work anymore though.
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No, it was actually Obama's mouthpiece that fired the first shot... you just parroted the same nonsense like a good little lemming.
 
Damocles said:
It's not all about you Darla, unless you truly believe that you are the only Democrat I know.


I give a turd about it because often they try to use it, like here, to dismiss the contribution of a stay at home mother as "easy". Would you believe she "had it easy" if she were a Lawyer? Did you act this way about Kerry's lovely wife who was what? Somebody who gave away money for a living? I'm not sure what you are saying here.

It's the fact that Democrats constantly try to use the fact that some people make this choice as a reason to dismiss their opinions, as Hillary Rosen did. She "never held a job"... I say she did.
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Well since you directly quoted me I thought it might be about me! I am silly that way!

Look, it's really simple. Mitt Romeny said his wife advises him on the economic concerns of women. As an incredibly wealthy woman, she simply doesn't know shit about the economic concerns of women. I mean, this isn't brain surgery. All the rest of this is the politics of resentment. Look how fast you took to it and wrote post after post filled with self-pitying resentment.

Again, as a childless single woman you are not going to win the "look what they said about memeeeeee" Olympics against me. There is simply no one less valued than me by our culture, period. I don't care. I am too busy loving my life.
 
Damocles said:
I'll tell you, only democrats have yet to try to tell me that my wife has less value because of her career choice. I've been told that she "had it easy" because we aren't poor, but then I've been told that I am "putting on airs" because we aren't rich. I've been told that other people "just don't have that option".

Almost nothing I have heard from Democrats in regard to our choice (yeah we made it together and stuff) to have one of us stay at home (whomever was making less at the time, and believe me it was close, had I not been promoted close to birth I would be the on scene parent).

They say they value her, but their actions and what they do denies that. While, contrariwise, from republicans I have only heard support for my wife, an understanding that it has value.

I say that because of what I experience, both here and in my life. Democrats do not value my wife, they hold only scorn for choosing to hold a traditional role. Often they believe that I somehow "forced" her to make this choice. She's told me that some people have approached her to advocate she "stop doing what he says" and return to work... They do not even believe she may have chosen this and that together we believe it is valuable.
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You hang around some really rude people if they feel they can talk outright to you about your wife staying home in such a manner. It must happen on a regular basis and they must also tell you they are Democrats, too., for you to come to the conclusion you have reached.

The women I know that work outside the home wish they could be stay at home moms, well some of them, a great many of them., others want to work outside the home,like it, wouldn't stay home if they could. It is fortunate that women now have the choice. Many women don't have the choice, they must work outside the home to support their families.




Your family is fortunate in that your wife was able to stay home and didnt have to bring in money to help support the family.
I was a self employed, stay at home mom.
 
Darla said:
LMAO. I said that Ann Romney had it easy because she is incredibly wealthy. I did not say you had it easy, or your wife had it easy, because you're not poor.

As for the rest of this, it's very self-pitying, but if you and your wife value your choices, what do you give a shit what others think? DO you have any idea of the things people say about my choices? I am childless single woman. There is no creature less valued by our culture. I couldn't care less. I love my choices. I'm very happy. I don't need to be a martyr or cry about what others say. I am too busy enjoying my life and my choices. I don't think happy people really get all that involved in what others may or may not think about them or their lives. Just my opinion based on my own experiences.
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You seem to think that because she is incredibly wealthy that must mean she has always been so. Again, when Mitt made the bulk of his money in the late 80's and beyond, his kids were predominantly grown up. yet you continue pretending that they just had ooodles and ooodles of cash on hand to take care of every whim. They most certainly were not in the lower brackets, never had to worry about food on the table, but pretending they had it easy is just nonsense the left keeps saying because they enjoy attacking women.
 
Superfreak said:
You seem to think that because she is incredibly wealthy that must mean she has always been so. Again, when Mitt made the bulk of his money in the late 80's and beyond, his kids were predominantly grown up. yet you continue pretending that they just had ooodles and ooodles of cash on hand to take care of every whim. They most certainly were not in the lower brackets, never had to worry about food on the table, but pretending they had it easy is just nonsense the left keeps saying because they enjoy attacking women.
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Um, you do know who his father is don't you? Maybe you should google him...
 
Darla said:
Well since you directly quoted me I thought it might be about me! I am silly that way!

Look, it's really simple. Mitt Romeny said his wife advises him on the economic concerns of women. As an incredibly wealthy woman, she simply doesn't know shit about the economic concerns of women. I mean, this isn't brain surgery. All the rest of this is the politics of resentment. Look how fast you took to it and wrote post after post filled with self-pitying resentment.

Again, as a childless single woman you are not going to win the "look what they said about memeeeeee" Olympics against me. There is simply no one less valued than me by our culture, period. I don't care. I am too busy loving my life.
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It is so true, I am seeing it with my oldest daughter! I am glad it is gradually changing because more women are delaying marriage or not getting married at all these days, but there is still a stigma, mostly the "what's wrong with you" stigma.
 
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