Congressional Righties tell America: Do as we SAY and NOT as we do.

zappasguitar

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Another shining example of Righties and their "Do as we say and not as we do" attitude:



Republicans Advance Ryan Budget Using An ‘Unconstitutional Legislative Trick’



In 2010, Republicans accused Democrats of “rushing their massive government takeover of health care through Congress” and considering an “unconstitutional legislative trick” called deem and pass for advancing the measure.
“We’ve seen all week, Speaker Pelosi, Majority Leader [Harry] Reid continuing to scheme and plot trying to find some way to get their big government takeover of health care enacted,” then-Republican Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) said in January of 2010, setting the tone for the Republican outrage. Shortly thereafter, Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) introduced a resolution stating “that the House disapproves of the malfeasant manner in which the Democratic Leadership has thereby discharged the duties of their offices” and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) took to the floor and accused Democrats of “greasing the skids for an abuse of the budget procedure.” “The arrogance, the paternalism, the condescension to the American people is just breathtaking,” Ryan declared. “This is not just a simple fixer bill either. This is the linchpin for healthcare.”
Well, what a difference two years make. Despite vociferously opposing “deem and pass” in 2010 — a tactic the Democrats ultimately abandoned — Republicans are now relying on the procedure to advance their budget resolution. Yesterday, the GOP claimed that “deem and pass” was necessary to “set in motion a 2013 fiscal plan in the absence of an action or agreement with the other chamber” and approved the measure in a vote of 228-184:
GOP leaders are advancing the House Republican budget and its proposed changes to Medicare despite opposition in the Democratic-led Senate by using used a relatively obscure procedural move — tucking it alongside an unrelated bill that would allow the importation of trophy polar bears.
In considering the sportsmen’s hunting legislation, the House approved a provision Tuesday that essentially “deems” the budget from Rep. Paul D. Ryan (R-WI) passed, even though the blueprint with its tax breaks and cuts to domestic programs was dead on arrival in the Senate.
Public opinion surveys show that Americans overwhelmingly oppose the House budget blueprint and its changes to the Medicare program. A United Technologies/National Journal poll from March found that 64 percent believe that “Medicare should continue as it is today, with the government … paying doctors and hospitals directly for the services they provide to seniors,” including “a solid 56 percent to 30 percent majority of Republicans.”


http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/04/18/466505/ryan-deem-pass/
 
just another piece of solid proof that the republicans don't care about anything other than their own establishment agenda, not unlike the democrats. it's pretty despicable.
 
just another piece of solid proof that the republicans don't care about anything other than their own establishment agenda, not unlike the democrats. it's pretty despicable.

it pretty much depends on who is in office and what power they want. both parties are amazing hypocrites. they literally argue against one thing and then shameless turn around when it suits their agenda and argue the opposite.
 
it pretty much depends on who is in office and what power they want. both parties are amazing hypocrites. they literally argue against one thing and then shameless turn around when it suits their agenda and argue the opposite.

Except that in this particular case, Liberals can claim the high moral ground...

Democrats THREATENED to use "deem and pass", Righties wailed long and loud about how unconstititional it was and Democrats ultimately relented.

NOW though, the same conservatives who claimed "deem and pass" was unconstitutional have now used it to ram unpopular legislation down the American public's throat.
 
Except that in this particular case, Liberals can claim the high moral ground...

Democrats THREATENED to use "deem and pass", Righties wailed long and loud about how unconstititional it was and Democrats ultimately relented.

NOW though, the same conservatives who claimed "deem and pass" was unconstitutional have now used it to ram unpopular legislation down the American public's throat.
I wouldn't exactly call it higher ground. maybe an inch higher.
 
Except that in this particular case, Liberals can claim the high moral ground...

Democrats THREATENED to use "deem and pass", Righties wailed long and loud about how unconstititional it was and Democrats ultimately relented.

NOW though, the same conservatives who claimed "deem and pass" was unconstitutional have now used it to ram unpopular legislation down the American public's throat.

you always give lefties a pass. we know. they can do no wrong in your eyes.
 
did you or did you not give the dems the "moral high ground".....

As it pertains specifically to the OP...yes I did.

Congressional Democrats have remained consistent with regards to "deem and pass", while congressional Republicans have not.
 
I don't need to watch C-SPAN to know that politicians say one thing when a procedure is used against them and then use that same procedure to their advantage when they feel they need to. When I first started following politics I had convinced myself that Republicans carried some moral high ground within politics. Yeah right. It took me a little while but I figured out they are scum just like all the other politicians. If you get involved in politics there is no moral high ground. For the sake of a single issue used one time sure if you want to argue that but on the whole both parties are bottom feeders.

If someone feels otherwise I would love to hear it.
 
Except that in this particular case, Liberals can claim the high moral ground...

Democrats THREATENED to use "deem and pass", Righties wailed long and loud about how unconstititional it was and Democrats ultimately relented.

NOW though, the same conservatives who claimed "deem and pass" was unconstitutional have now used it to ram unpopular legislation down the American public's throat.

Nuanced, isn't it? Much moreso than any rightwinger could possibly understand.
 
Nuanced, isn't it? Much moreso than any rightwinger could possibly understand.


Being consistent on a subject is apparently more than some Righties can handle.


Apparently it's too difficult for Yurt to grasp...he's still trying to play his pathetic game of "gotcha"...
 
Being consistent on a subject is apparently more than some Righties can handle.


Apparently it's too difficult for Yurt to grasp...he's still trying to play his pathetic game of "gotcha"...

um...your entire thread is nothing but a gotcha

more two faced whiny bullshit from the board nazi
 
just read the long wall of print (OP) and didn't see where it said dems are now for deem and pass.

again...what is your point zappa?
 
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