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General Buck Turgidson said:
The bulk of the "$500 billion in Medicare cuts" that the Republicans ran on in 2010 were Medicare Advantage cuts.
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By all means... again... link us up to the Republican Ads that ran on $500b in Medicare Advantage cuts that you proclaimed they ran on. Surely you can... or did you once again lie/exaggerate in your attempt to apologize for your master?
 
Superfreak said:
By all means... again... link us up to the Republican Ads that ran on $500b in Medicare Advantage cuts that you proclaimed they ran on. Surely you can... or did you once again lie/exaggerate in your attempt to apologize for your master?
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They ran on alleged cuts to Medicare, which largely consisted of cuts to Medicare Advantage. I can post lots of videos of the Republicans running on an alleged $500 billion in Medicare cuts if you want me to. I don't think that's a controversial statement.

By the way, this is why Republicans are making an issue of it:

WASHINGTON — The government plans to announce today that the 2010 health care law will save Medicare beneficiaries $208 billion through 2020, and save Medicare itself $200 billion through 2016, based on a Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services actuary report.

"We have achieved significant tangible savings that have been passed on to beneficiaries," said Jonathan Blum, director of the Center for Medicare. "There's a tremendous opportunity for even greater savings."
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http://www.usatoday.com/NEWS/usaedition/2012-04-23-Medicare-report_ST_U.htm
 
General Buck Turgidson said:
No, the Republican bitching is fauxtrage. Basically, in 2010 they ran against Obama and the Democrats for cutting $500 billion in Medicare Advantage spending. Now in 2012, they're bitching because Obama restored $8 billion in Medicare Advantage funding through an incentive program. It's nonsense.
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Its the epitome of stupidity to compare cutting 500 Billion to restoring 8 billion as an equal trade off.....

Thats like your boss cutting your pay by 50% and then giving you a 5% raise to make up for it.......only a pinhead would consider that equatable ....
 
General Buck Turgidson said:
They ran on alleged cuts to Medicare, which largely consisted of cuts to Medicare Advantage. I can post lots of videos of the Republicans running on an alleged $500 billion in Medicare cuts if you want me to. I don't think that's a controversial statement.
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It is also not the statement you made earlier. They ran on the $500b in Medicare cuts. Not on $500b in Medicare Advantage cuts as you claimed.

Sorry, but USA today is, like you, not a credible source. thus anything at that link is now void.
 
Superfreak said:
It is also not the statement you made earlier. They ran on the $500b in Medicare cuts. Not on $500b in Medicare Advantage cuts as you claimed.
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The $500 billion in Medicare cuts were mainly cuts to Medicare Advantage to the extent there were any benefit cuts at all.


Superfreak said:
Sorry, but USA today is, like you, not a credible source. thus anything at that link is now void.
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Right. I forgot about your inability to distinguish between the op-ed pages and news pages of newspapers.
 
Superfreak said:
Again, they did not do what you said they did.
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Sure they did. You're just pretending my second comment on the matter was not a follow up to my first comment on the matter, which is about what I would expect from Yurt.


Superfreak said:
I said nothing about it being op ed or news. I stated that USA today is not a credible source.
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Your comments are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
 
General Buck Turgidson said:
Sure they did. You're just pretending my second comment on the matter was not a follow up to my first comment on the matter, which is about what I would expect from Yurt.
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I am not pretending anything. You tried to clarify when you realized your original comment was bullshit and that they didn't do what you stated they did.
 
Superfreak said:
I am not pretending anything. You tried to clarify when you realized your original comment was bullshit and that they didn't do what you stated they did.
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Whatever. They ran against "Medicare cuts" that were actually cuts to Medicare Advantage. So, yeah. They ran against to the program and now they're supposedly upset about additional funding for the program. It's your basic strategy of opposing everything for whatever reason you think sounds good.
 
General Buck Turgidson said:
And basically you have Republicans claiming that Obama cut $500 billion from Medicare by making cuts to Medicare Advantage and now getting their panties in a twist for an $8 billion incentive program for Medicare Advantage. It's your basic outrage over everything.
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I will ask my daughter, she is the expert on Medicare!
 
General Buck Turgidson said:
Whatever. .
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No dear apologist, not whatever. You made a false claim and were shown to be wrong.

Running against $500b in Medicare cuts and then complaining that Obama was trying to hide the impact of part of his cuts until after the election is precisely the point. They want people to see just how bad Obama care is, but Obama wants to continue to hide the expenses and the painful side of Obama care until after the election.
 
General Buck Turgidson said:
As long as there's a lot of material about writing life insurance policies I'm sure I'll enjoy it.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57418636/auditors-call-for-end-to-medicare-bonus-program/

Yet another right wing site, right dung?

The nonpartisan Government Accountability Office says in a report to be released Monday that the $8.3 billion the administration has earmarked for quality bonuses to Medicare Advantage insurance plans would postpone the pain of cuts to the plans under the new health care law.
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that is what they have a problem with. Obama is trying to hide the pain until after the election.

But please dung, do go on apologizing for your master.
 
General Buck Turgidson said:
The $500 billion in Medicare cuts were mainly cuts to Medicare Advantage to the extent there were any benefit cuts at all.




Right. I forgot about your inability to distinguish between the op-ed pages and news pages of newspapers.
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My understanding is the cuts aren't to the recipients, but incentives paid to providers.
 
Superfreak said:
No dear apologist, not whatever. You made a false claim and were shown to be wrong.
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Your obtuseness does not make me wrong


Superfreak said:
Running against $500b in Medicare cuts and then complaining that Obama was trying to hide the impact of part of his cuts until after the election is precisely the point. They want people to see just how bad Obama care is, but Obama wants to continue to hide the expenses and the painful side of Obama care until after the election.
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$500 billion in Medicare cuts is a lie and it's the moving force behind all of this nonsense. I would have a little more respect for you and your alleged deficit-hawkery if you you weren't such a raging Republican opportunist.
 
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