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PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
and an outright lie to say they did.........
They did, stupid.
volsrock1
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Indians didn't own land, they didn't believe in it
Native Americans, however, had a different lifestyle and concept of ownership. To them, the thought of owning a piece of land was bizarre, as they viewed the land to belong to the various energies and life forms that existed in the said land.
So since they didn't own it and didn't believe in it....it wasn't theirs and up for grabs to the most powerful group!
There was a war for resources and the Native Americans lost. They came in second. Period.
Native American tribes historically did take land from each other through warfare!
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PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
silly fucking liar......,
volsrock1
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The myth of the ‘stolen country’
The idea that the Europeans stole some land which had belonged in perpetuity to any one tribe istherefore ludicrous. The situation in most of North America was similar to northern Europe on the eve of the Germanic migrations, or western Europe as the Celts were moving across thelandscape. Precisely to whom the land belonged in any given century at these periods in history was anyone’s guess. The very notion of property is a Graeco-Roman invention which mostcultures found foreign until quite recently
. Despite a few sensational cases of duplicity, most of the time, Europeans tried to buy land from Indians, just like they would buy an acre of land in England. If the local chief assented to this and liked the price, where then was the crime?
The idea that the Europeans stole some land which had belonged in perpetuity to any one tribe istherefore ludicrous. The situation in most of North America was similar to northern Europe on the eve of the Germanic migrations, or western Europe as the Celts were moving across thelandscape. Precisely to whom the land belonged in any given century at these periods in history was anyone’s guess. The very notion of property is a Graeco-Roman invention which mostcultures found foreign until quite recently
. Despite a few sensational cases of duplicity, most of the time, Europeans tried to buy land from Indians, just like they would buy an acre of land in England. If the local chief assented to this and liked the price, where then was the crime?
volsrock1
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According to historical records, in the context of early English colonization in America, the "Indians" (specifically the Powhatan tribe led by Opechancanough) are generally considered to have initiated the first major coordinated attack on English settlers in Virginia on March 22, 1622. This event is often called the "Jamestown Massacre".
On March 22, 1622, Powhatan Indians attacked and killed colonists in eastern Virginia. Known as the Jamestown Massacre, the bloodbath gave the English government an excuse to justify their efforts to attack Native Americans and confiscate their land.
Indian Wars: Definition, Dates & Wounded Knee
The Indian Wars were a series of battles waged for nearly 200 years by European settlers and the U.S. government against Native Americans, primarily over land.
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First Anglo-Powhatan War (1609–1614)
SUMMARYThe First Anglo-Powhatan War was fought from 1609 until 1614 and pitted the English settlers at Jamestown against an alliance of Algonquian-speaking Virginia Indians led by Powhatan (Wahunsonacock). After the English arrived in Virginia in 1607, they struggled to survive through terrible drought and cold winters. Unable to adequately provide for themselves, they pressured the Indians of Tsenacomoco for relief, which led to a series of conflicts along the James River that intensified in the autumn of 1609. Powhatan ordered something like a siege of the English fort, which lasted through the winter of 1609–1610 and precipitated the so-called Starving Time. This was the Indians’ best chance to win the war, but the English survived and, after the arrival of reinforcements, viciously attacked.
First Anglo-Powhatan War (1609–1614) - Encyclopedia Virginia
Different Ideas of War Map of Powhatan Paramount Chiefdom When the hundred or so English settlers sailed into the in the spring of 1607, they encountered one of the most powerful Indian chiefdoms on the Atlantic seaboard. Powhatan, the , or mamanatowick, ruled twenty-eight to thirty-two...
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Guess the Injuns shouldn't have started war
So it’s a bad idea to resist illegal invaders?According to historical records, in the context of early English colonization in America, the "Indians" (specifically the Powhatan tribe led by Opechancanough) are generally considered to have initiated the first major coordinated attack on English settlers in Virginia on March 22, 1622. This event is often called the "Jamestown Massacre".
On March 22, 1622, Powhatan Indians attacked and killed colonists in eastern Virginia. Known as the Jamestown Massacre, the bloodbath gave the English government an excuse to justify their efforts to attack Native Americans and confiscate their land.
Indian Wars: Definition, Dates & Wounded Knee
The Indian Wars were a series of battles waged for nearly 200 years by European settlers and the U.S. government against Native Americans, primarily over land.
First Anglo-Powhatan War (1609–1614)
SUMMARY
The First Anglo-Powhatan War was fought from 1609 until 1614 and pitted the English settlers at Jamestown against an alliance of Algonquian-speaking Virginia Indians led by Powhatan (Wahunsonacock). After the English arrived in Virginia in 1607, they struggled to survive through terrible drought and cold winters. Unable to adequately provide for themselves, they pressured the Indians of Tsenacomoco for relief, which led to a series of conflicts along the James River that intensified in the autumn of 1609. Powhatan ordered something like a siege of the English fort, which lasted through the winter of 1609–1610 and precipitated the so-called Starving Time. This was the Indians’ best chance to win the war, but the English survived and, after the arrival of reinforcements, viciously attacked.
First Anglo-Powhatan War (1609–1614) - Encyclopedia Virginia
Different Ideas of War Map of Powhatan Paramount Chiefdom When the hundred or so English settlers sailed into the in the spring of 1607, they encountered one of the most powerful Indian chiefdoms on the Atlantic seaboard. Powhatan, the , or mamanatowick, ruled twenty-eight to thirty-two...encyclopediavirginia.org
Guess the Injuns shouldn't have started war
T. A. Gardner
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What law(s) did the English break in settling where they did? Not modern law, but laws that prevailed at the time. Don't use an Historian's Fallacy to justify your stupid statement.
On the other hand, how do you see the Great Lakes tribes joining together under Tecumseh in 1812 and siding with the British against the US in the War of 1812? The British and Americans agreed on a peace treaty in 1815 and the British, to use the modern-day vernacular, threw Tecumseh and the Indians under the bus. The British had promised them their land and territory when they won, but the British didn't win (neither did the Americans).
The result was the US took most of the Indian's territory--which they had occupied during the war--and kept it. Tecumseh got screwed by the British and then by the US because he chose wrong in a war.
volsrock1
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what made um illegal?
murder wasn't against the law!
do u know the definition of illegal?
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