What is hell?

His god is orange, worships mammon and follows Satan.

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And what do you spread?
 
Yeah, like Obama right? You voted for him 2x?
Obama was an American. No, I voted for McCain then Romney. IMO, they'd provide better security and support for the CIA to take out foreign agents hostile to the United States than any Democrat. Why do you ask, Almost Marco of Brazil?
 
Obama was an American. No, I voted for McCain then Romney. IMO, they'd provide better security and support for the CIA to take out foreign agents hostile to the United States than any Democrat. Why do you ask, Almost Marco of Brazil?
Because Obama was a Trojan Horse and the Biden administration was a soft coup/insurrection. It was orchestrated by nefarious forces that want to take down the USA. In his 8 years, Obama laid down much of the framework and embedded his soldiers (the footsoldiers of the deep state) in all levels of government.
 
Because Obama was a Trojan Horse and the Biden administration was a soft coup/insurrection. It was orchestrated by nefarious forces that want to take down the USA. In his 8 years, Obama laid down much of the framework and embedded his soldiers (the footsoldiers of the deep state) in all levels of government.
Almost Marco, you are an unregistered foreign agent spreading lies and hate against the United States. If anything you said was true, why hasn't Trump ordered Obama's arrest? Either in his first term or the current one?

Obviously it's not true and you're just an evil anti-American whom I'd support the CIA working with Brazil to neutralize you.
 
Almost Marco, you are an unregistered foreign agent spreading lies and hate against the United States. If anything you said was true, why hasn't Trump ordered Obama's arrest? Either in his first term or the current one?

Obviously it's not true and you're just an evil anti-American whom I'd support the CIA working with Brazil to neutralize you.
You see, here's where you go off the edge.
Trump has not arrested Obama because he would have to have a treasure trove of proof before attempting something so grand that it would truly rock the nation to it's core.

STOP calling me a foreign agent and calling for my assassination.

That is totally fucked up.
 
You see, here's where you go off the edge.
Trump has not arrested Obama because he would have to have a treasure trove of proof before attempting something so grand that it would truly rock the nation to it's core.

STOP calling me a foreign agent and calling for my assassination.

That is totally fucked up.
If you were an American, Almost Marco, you'd know that Trump has an obsessive hatred of Obama and paid for agents to go to Hawaii to "find the real birth certificate". He failed, of course. The entire pee-pee tape controversy was misconstrued, but was an example of Trump's hatred of the Obamas by having Putin's hookers piss on the bed the Obamas had slept in after Trump was finished with the hookers.

Trump can't arrest Obama because he has no evidence to bring charges.

My recommendation is that the CIA work with local foreign governments to neutralize all anti-American foreign agents with extreme prejudice. Make them disappear, one way or another. Depending upon the locale, it's not necessary to kill them. Hack them and implicate them in a major local crime or take all of their money. Get them fired and evicted. Plant evidence to break up their marriage, estrange them from their children, friends and neighbors. Lots of ways to neutralize someone using government powers. Only fucking morons believe killing is the only way.
 
If you were an American, Almost Marco, you'd know that Trump has an obsessive hatred of Obama and paid for agents to go to Hawaii to "find the real birth certificate"
Do you know why people don't respect you. It's because you give no respect.
My dislike for Obama's politics goes way back before Trump was on the Presidential campaign scene.
I am an American. I spent all my life in the USA prior to retiring. And now I travel up and back as I please.
You continue to disrespect me because my politics does not match up with yours.
 
Do you know why people don't respect you. It's because you give no respect.
My dislike for Obama's politics goes way back before Trump was on the Presidential campaign scene.
I am an American. I spent all my life in the USA prior to retiring. And now I travel up and back as I please.
You continue to disrespect me because my politics does not match up with yours.
I strongly dislike hostile foreigners fucking with my country.

Your actions belie your words, Almost Marco.
 
Jesus: the outer darkness, an unquenchable fire, a place of no return.
Buddhism: a place of torment, not eternal, but inconcievably long.
Catholic Church: Described mainly as a separation from God.
Anglican Church: Permanent annihilation and the extinguishing of all consciousness.

None of which was literal when Jesus used those expressions. He was using symbolic language, based upon the context.
 
Jesus: the outer darkness, an unquenchable fire, a place of no return.
Buddhism: a place of torment, not eternal, but inconcievably long.
Catholic Church: Described mainly as a separation from God.
Anglican Church: Permanent annihilation and the extinguishing of all consciousness.
Where's your mammy at?
Your moral foundation is about like them sand dunes they always try to go up with motorcycles in California, shitbag.
Ever changing.
 
None of which was literal when Jesus used those expressions. He was using symbolic language, based upon the context.
The only people I know who are strict Biblical literalists are evangelical Protestants, and militant atheists.

It's really the only area of common ground between Pentecostals and Atheists.
 
Jesus: the outer darkness, an unquenchable fire, a place of no return.
Buddhism: a place of torment, not eternal, but inconcievably long.
Catholic Church: Described mainly as a separation from God.
Anglican Church: Permanent annihilation and the extinguishing of all consciousness.

The answer is "C":
Catholic Church: Described mainly as a separation from God.

Understand that spirits, which is what you and I will become when we shed our mortal bodies, do not exist in the physical realm. They are pure spirit and exist in the spiritual realm.

Therefore, Hell (and Heaven) are not "places", up there and down there, as it were.

You will either spend eternity with God, in His presence, in what is sometimes referred to as the Beatific Vision, or you will spend eternity separated from God.


QUOTING POPE SAINT JOHN PAUL II:

Hell is the State of Those who Reject God

At the General Audience of Wednesday, 28 July 1999, the Holy Father reflected on hell as the definitive rejection of God. In his catechesis, the Pope said that care should be taken to interpret correctly the images of hell in Sacred Scripture, and explained that "hell is the ultimate consequence of sin itself... Rather than a place, hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy".

1. God is the infinitely good and merciful Father. But man, called to respond to him freely, can unfortunately choose to reject his love and forgiveness once and for all, thus separating himself for ever from joyful communion with him. It is precisely this tragic situation that Christian doctrine explains when it speaks of eternal damnation or hell. It is not a punishment imposed externally by God but a development of premises already set by people in this life. The very dimension of unhappiness which this obscure condition brings can in a certain way be sensed in the light of some of the terrible experiences we have suffered which, as is commonly said, make life "hell".

In a theological sense however, hell is something else: it is the ultimate consequence of sin itself, which turns against the person who committed it. It is the state of those who definitively reject the Father's mercy, even at the last moment of their life.

Hell is a state of eternal damnation

2. To describe this reality Sacred Scripture uses a symbolical language which will gradually be explained. In the Old Testament the condition of the dead had not yet been fully disclosed by Revelation. Moreover it was thought that the dead were amassed in Sheol, a land of darkness (cf. Ez. 28:8; 31:14; Jb. 10:21f.; 38:17; Ps 30:10; 88:7, 13), a pit from which one cannot reascend (cf. Jb. 7:9), a place in which it is impossible to praise God (cf. Is 38:18; Ps 6:6).

The New Testament sheds new light on the condition of the dead, proclaiming above all that Christ by his Resurrection conquered death and extended his liberating power to the kingdom of the dead.

Redemption nevertheless remains an offer of salvation which it is up to people to accept freely. This is why they will all be judged "by what they [have done]" (Rv 20:13). By using images, the New Testament presents the place destined for evildoers as a fiery furnace, where people will "weep and gnash their teeth" (Mt 13:42; cf. 25:30, 41), or like Gehenna with its "unquenchable fire" (Mk 9:43). All this is narrated in the parable of the rich man, which explains that hell is a place of eternal suffering, with no possibility of return, nor of the alleviation of pain (cf. Lk. 16:19-3 1).

The Book of Revelation also figuratively portrays in a "pool of fire" those who exclude themselves from the book of life, thus meeting with a "second death" (Rv. 20:13f.). Whoever continues to be closed to the Gospel is therefore preparing for 'eternal destruction and exclusion from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might" (2 Thes 1:9).

3. The images of hell that Sacred Scripture presents to us must be correctly interpreted. They show the complete frustration and emptiness of life without God. Rather* than a place, hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life andjoy. This is how the Catechism of the Catholic Church summarizes the truths of faith on this subject: "To die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God's merciful love means remaining separated from him for ever by our own free choice. This state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called 'hell'" (n. 1033).

"Eternal damnation", therefore, is not attributed to God's initiative because in his merciful love he can only desire the salvation of the beings he created. In reality, it is the creature who closes himself to his love. Damnation consists precisely in definitive separation from God, freely chosen by the human person and confirmed with death that seals his choice for ever. God's judgement ratifies this state.

We are saved from going to hell by Jesus who conquered Satan

4. Christian faith teaches that in taking the risk of saying "yes" or "no", which marks the human creature's freedom, some have already said no. They are the spiritual creatures that rebelled against God's love and are called demons (cf. Fourth Lateran Council, DS 800-801). What happened to them is a warning to us: it is a continuous call to avoid the tragedy which leads to sin and to conform our life to that of Jesus who lived his life with a "yes" to God.

Eternal damnation remains a real possibility, but we are not granted, without special divine revelation, the knowledge of whether or which human beings are effectively involved in it. The thought of hell — and even less the improper use of biblical images — must not create anxiety or despair, but is a necessary and healthy reminder of freedom within the proclamation that the risen Jesus has conquered Satan, giving us the, Spirit of God who makes us cry "Abba, Father!" (Rm. 8:15; Gal. 4:6).

This prospect, rich in hope, prevails in Christian proclamation. It is effectively reflected in the liturgical tradition of the Church, as the words of the Roman Canon attest: "Father, accept this offering from your whole family ... save us from final damnation, and count us among those you have chosen".

To the English-speaking pilgrims and visitors, the Holy Father said.

I am pleased to greet the English-speaking pilgrims and visitors present at today's audience, especially those from England, Scotland, Nigeria, Hong Kong and the United States of America. I wish you a pleasant visit to Christian Rome and I invoke upon you the grace and peace of our Lord Jesus Christ.

*[Note: The original Italian says, "(Più che) More than a place, hell indicates..." This suggests correctly that although hell is not essentially "a place," rather the definitive loss of God, confinement is included. Thus, after the general resurrection the bodies of the damned, being bodies not spirits, must be in "some place," in which they will receive the punishment of fire.] return to text

 
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