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LOL. Dude, you supported the Bush tax cuts. There were no accompanying spending cuts. That's what happened.

Repetition of a bad assumption doesn't make it more valid. Reality: I consistently said that the cuts shouldn't take place without corresponding spending cuts.

While I was against raising taxes into a recession after the crap hit the fan, I was not "for" tax cuts without spending cuts. That is a falsehood.
 
Repetition of a bad assumption doesn't make it more valid. Reality: I consistently said that the cuts shouldn't take place without corresponding spending cuts.

And yet you supported the tax cuts even though there were no corresponding spending cuts. It's funny how that happened, innit?


While I was against raising taxes into a recession after the crap hit the fan, I was not "for" tax cuts without spending cuts. That is a falsehood.

Except the part where you supported the Bush tax cuts, which had no accompanying spendings cuts, yeah I guess you're right.
 
And yet you supported the tax cuts even though there were no corresponding spending cuts. It's funny how that happened, innit?




Except the part where you supported the Bush tax cuts, which had no accompanying spendings cuts, yeah I guess you're right.

It is still fictional, even when you repeat it.

Unless in DH's world somebody who spoke against tax cuts without corresponding spending cuts supports tax cuts without corresponding spending cuts. But nobody believes that DH is that stupid really.
 
Oh, you want quotes? Quotes you say? Okey dokey pokey.


The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. - Thomas Jefferson


To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. - Thomas Jefferson

If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare… The powers of Congress would subvert the very foundation, the very nature of the limited government established by the people of America. - Alexander Hamilton

The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence. - John Adams

As a man is said to have a right to his property, he may be equally said to have a property in his rights. Where an excess of power prevails, property of no sort is duly respected. No man is safe in his opinions, his person, his faculties, or his possessions. - James Madison

If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions. - James Madison

It is sufficiently obvious, that persons and property are the two great subjects on which Governments are to act; and that the rights of persons, and the rights of property, are the objects, for the protection of which Government was instituted. These rights cannot well be separated. - James Madison

Lastly, I would refer you to

Article 1 Section 9 states, "No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or enumeration herein before directed to be taken."

Now admittedly, the 16th Amendment made this a moot point, but we weren't discussing the 16th Amendment, we were discussing what the Founders thoughts on taxation were. Enjoy.

Oh shit. Now I have to dust off the thread proving those quotes. Nahhh...not needed. Everyone's got you on IA anyhow.
 
Obama is an informed president. Bush was not.

Duh.

Your ejection fraction must have dipped to 5% thus limiting the amount of oxygenation to your brain. This is truly hilarious.

Sure he is an "informed" President if you don't want to count Benghazi, IRS and any other myriad of things he seems to find out from the news when we do when it comes to his administration

:rofl2:
 
I think an effective rate of 20 is what I'm indicating.
So that GED was tough right

So if an effective top tax rate for the top 1% is what you support why have a higher marginal rate? Why not just have a flat tax and be done with it? Why not a flat tax of 20% and eliminate all the preferential tax deductions that only fuel tax preparers and we could eliminate the IRS?
 
So if an effective top tax rate for the top 1% is what you support why have a higher marginal rate? Why not just have a flat tax and be done with it? Why not a flat tax of 20% and eliminate all the preferential tax deductions that only fuel tax preparers and we could eliminate the IRS?
Because me likey some deductions adding to way more than 50 percent of income!
 
Yeah, fictional. Like, what really happened is totally fictional. You supported the Bush tax cuts. They had no accompnaying spending cuts.

Again, simply repeating fiction doesn't change the reality. What I said is pretty much exactly opposite to what you imagine I said. Tax cuts and spending cuts is what I support, not tax cuts and spending increases. It really is simple. I said one thing, you say I said something you imagine.
 
Again, simply repeating fiction doesn't change the reality. What I said is pretty much exactly opposite to what you imagine I said. Tax cuts and spending cuts is what I support, not tax cuts and spending increases. It really is simple. I said one thing, you say I said something you imagine.


LOL. Remember when you supported a repeal of the Bush tax cuts becuase there were no spending cuts? Yeah, me neither.
 
LOL. Remember when you supported a repeal of the Bush tax cuts becuase there were no spending cuts? Yeah, me neither.
Remember back when you wanted to get rid of the Bush rates and I supported it if we got rid of the extra Bush spending? Yeah... that actually happened too.

Remember, just a few posts ago where I pointed out that I didn't support raising taxes into a recession? Yeah, those were the good old minutes...

I still don't support raising taxes into a recession, even if they were tax rates set without spending decreases, which I didn't support.

You just go on and argue fiction about me... it still doesn't change reality. It isn't even going to.
 
Remember, just a few posts ago where I pointed out that I didn't support raising taxes into a recession? Yeah, those were the good old minutes...

I still don't support raising taxes into a recession, even if they were tax rates set without spending decreases, which I didn't support.

You just go on and argue fiction about me... it still doesn't change reality. It isn't even going to.

Remember back when you wanted to get rid of the Bush rates and I supported it if we got rid of the extra Bush spending? Yeah... that actually happened too.


LOL. Because there was no period since the tax cuts passing in 2001 when we weren't in a recession.

Also, too, if I recall correctly, the proposal that you made was that you would agree to Clinton era tax rates so long as we had Clinton era spending. In 2011. Which was really stupid for the reasons that I pointed out in that thread (which, again, if I recall correctly, you ignored).

But again, all of this has nothing to do with the fact that the actual policy that was actually voted on in Congress and that you supported was tax cuts with no accompanying spending cuts.
 
LOL. Because there was no period since the tax cuts passing in 2001 when we weren't in a recession.

LOL. And I was constantly pointing out that we needed spending cuts to match the tax cuts.

Also, too, if I recall correctly, the proposal that you made was that you would agree to Clinton era tax rates so long as we had Clinton era spending. In 2011. Which was really stupid for the reasons that I pointed out in that thread (which, again, if I recall correctly, you ignored).

But again, all of this has nothing to do with the fact that the actual policy that was actually voted on in Congress and that you supported was tax cuts with no accompanying spending cuts.

Which again is fictional. I spoke against tax cuts without spending cuts and in reality have supported spending cuts consistently throughout our rather lengthy correspondence on these sites.
 
Because me likey some deductions adding to way more than 50 percent of income!

you are making no sense. if you can accomplish your goal of paying 20% and do it much more efficiently and "fairly" why not?

Is it "fair" that you get deductions others don't? Why not have a flat tax rate and call it a day?

Unless of course like all other aspects of your liberalism, you merely pay lip service?
 
you are making no sense. if you can accomplish your goal of paying 20% and do it much more efficiently and "fairly" why not?

Is it "fair" that you get deductions others don't? Why not have a flat tax rate and call it a day?

Unless of course like all other aspects of your liberalism, you merely pay lip service?
You live in New Orleans, went to Jesuit but dropped out of college for a shit job!
 
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