2012 GOP race is mostly asinine

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check out this latest diddy from gingrich:

NASHVILLE (AP) -- Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich on Monday slammed rival Rick Santorum as a "big labor Republican," accusing him of siding with unions over Memphis-based FedEx when the Senate grappled with a labor dispute in the 1990s.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-02-27-16-22-02

i don't like santorum for a host of reasons....but i'm pretty sure he is not big labor.

the GOP are eating each other alive. i believe this race has been so contentious that it could fracture the entire party. perhaps not a bad outcome as we could use a stronger party that isn't just far right.
 
The Democratic Party is PRAYING that Santorum is the nominee. The WSJ posted a great editorial on what they think a Santorum candidacy would mean for the republican party.
 
Socrtease said:
The Democratic Party is PRAYING that Santorum is the nominee. The WSJ posted a great editorial on what they think a Santorum candidacy would mean for the republican party.
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i'm sure they are. the dems just want more power for their party. santorum is too far right for america.
 
sedan said:
It's hard to imagine any of these guys beating Obama.
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are you kidding?.......have you seen how Obama is polling in the swing states?......and the campaigning hasn't even begun yet......

shucks, signalmankenneth is so nervous he started three threads today......
 
Yurt said:
check out this latest diddy from gingrich:

NASHVILLE (AP) -- Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich on Monday slammed rival Rick Santorum as a "big labor Republican," accusing him of siding with unions over Memphis-based FedEx when the Senate grappled with a labor dispute in the 1990s.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-02-27-16-22-02

i don't like santorum for a host of reasons....but i'm pretty sure he is not big labor.

the GOP are eating each other alive. i believe this race has been so contentious that it could fracture the entire party. perhaps not a bad outcome as we could use a stronger party that isn't just far right.
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This is interesting. Ussually it's the Democrats who've been famous for their circular firing squads and the Republicans who've been known for party loyalty. Not this time around.
 
sedan said:
It's hard to imagine any of these guys beating Obama.
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You're kidding your self. Romney might be clueless about politicing with the "common people" but he's a very capable person with access to vast resources. He may say stupid shit about firing people and being friends with NASCAR owners but he can damned well win this election. I don' think he will but he damned well can.
 
money doesn't mean dick, Meg Whittman reproved that.

Talking the same tired anti big gov(unless it fits your Jesus cult desires) is Mcainish!
 
The Dude said:
Sandusky is right, No president has won with numbers as bad as Obuama's.
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That's not true at all. Truman (50) had far worse approval numbers than Obama. Nixon (72) and Bush (04) had comparable approval numbers to Obama, at the end of their first term, and they won re-election. Nixon (72) by a landslide and Bush (04) by very slim margin. Approval ratings don't mean a lot. They mainly show the same trend over and over again. A Presidential candidate is very popular, when first elected, and then it's down hill from there. Obama's decline in approvals rating is rather small compared to the decline in approvals that Truman, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Bush 1 and Bush 2 suffered. Truman, Bush 1 and Bush 2 went from some of the highest Presidential ratings ever to the lowest ever and 2 of those 3 were re-elected.

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-presapp0605-31.html
 
Derp Derp said:
You're kidding your self. Romney might be clueless about politicing with the "common people" but he's a very capable person with access to vast resources. He may say stupid shit about firing people and being friends with NASCAR owners but he can damned well win this election. I don' think he will but he damned well can.
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Here's the lesson Democrats learned in 2000 and 2004: Bad Candidates Lose Elections.

Republicans should also have learned this in 2008, but they evidently have not.
 
The Dude said:
money doesn't mean dick, Meg Whittman reproved that.

Talking the same tired anti big gov(unless it fits your Jesus cult desires) is Mcainish!
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I wouldn't say it "means dick". Money is and always has been the mothers milk of politics. It isn't all there is to politics and just because someone is good in business doesn't mean they would be good in either politics or public service.
 
sedan said:
Here's the lesson Democrats learned in 2000 and 2004: Bad Candidates Lose Elections.

Republicans should also have learned this in 2008, but they evidently have not.
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There is that. None of the Republican field is what I would call inspiring. Then there's the message. What message do the Repubs have other than their tired old anti-government slogan? That's gone a long ways towards alienating independents voters. The fact that the average American voter shares something in common with your average Fox viewer in that they're not exactly well informed and you have a recipe for "anything can happen".
 
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