3.2% inflation

[ExpressLane]

Interesting whataboutism.

You brought up a botched COVID response. Como was one of the Governors that helped screw up jobs and COVID deaths for Trump. So it is not a whataboutism at all.

 

[ExpressLane]

Sure thing. Because, as we all know, the only options are lying, or running around pulling your hair out & screaming.

Well then what exactly would YOU have done.

 

[BartenderElite]

Well then what exactly would YOU have done.

Told the truth?

Seems pretty simple. Americans don't need to be treated like children. They can handle tough news.

 

[ExpressLane]

I accept your confession that losing a job is far worse than the price of diapers and lite beer.

The Trump recession started in December of 2019 before there was a pandemic.

Presidents are supposed to be able to handle emergencies. Trump's response to COVID lagged behind many other developed nations, and not every developed country went into a deep and debilitating recession

Proof links please.

 

[ExpressLane]

Told the truth?

Seems pretty simple. Americans don't need to be treated like children. They can handle tough news.

What truth would you have told

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Inflation rates of Developed Countries, October 2023

USA 3.2%
Australia 5.4%
Canada 3.8%
France 4%
Germany 3.8%
Japan 3.0%
Italy 1.7%
South Korea 3.8%
United Kingdom 4.6%

Bidenflation damages everyone......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Conservatives sure love talking down good economic news....

if we get some we'll try......

 

[BartenderElite]

What truth would you have told

There is only one truth.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Trump left office as the worst jobs President in modern history, and having helped lay the groundwork for global inflation, which started just prior to Biden actually being inaugurated.

when Trump left office Carter was the worst economic president in modern history......Biden changed all that.......

 

[ExpressLane]

There is only one truth.

So you wouldn't have said that masks weren't needed? Or maybe you wouldn't have said the vaccine prevented infection. Things like that? Or how about we should close the schools would you have said that?

 

[BartenderElite]

So you wouldn't have said that masks weren't needed? Or maybe you wouldn't have said the vaccine prevented infection. Things like that? Or how about we should close the schools would you have said that?

Was it "the truth" to tell Americans that by spring of '20, the virus would just magically disappear, like a miracle?

 

[Into the Night]

First off, it has been an economic indicator,

It is not an economic indicator.

however, with Obama it became the economic indicator for the right,

It is not an economic indicator.

and by itself doesn’t carry that kind of relevance,

It is not an economic indicator and never was.

and secondly, didn’t imply it related to inflation,

You DID, liar. Don't try to deny your own posts.

rather employed it to show that no matter what was occurring the MAGA cult would come up with something out of the blue to attack the lowering inflation rate

MAGA isn't a cult. A flat tire is already flat. The rate of air leaving the tire is lower, but the tire is already flat.

And you missed the thread’s point, inflation is receding, and better in the US than any where else in the world.

It is not.

You still have the antiquated thought that prices are going to return to those of some bygone year, ain’t happening, they never did, companies aren’t going to suddenly surrender the profits that they have been recording,

Many companies are not reporting a profit this year. Inflation, you know.

basic economics

Buzzphrase.

 

[Into the Night]

Was it "the truth" to tell Americans that by spring of '20, the virus would just magically disappear, like a miracle?

Trump didn't count on Democrats using it to foment a major panic and economic shutdown. We are still in economic depression because of it.

 

[Into the Night]

Trump botched the COVID response, badly.

It led to more job losses, and more long-term job losses.

That's the history.

Trump is not a Democrat. You are describing DEMOCRATS.

 

[Into the Night]

I accept your confession that losing a job is far worse than the price of diapers and lite beer.

The Trump recession started in December of 2019 before there was a pandemic.

Presidents are supposed to be able to handle emergencies. Trump's response to COVID lagged behind many other developed nations, and not every developed country went into a deep and debilitating recession

Trump did not cause any recession or the economic depression we are currently in. DEMOCRATS DID.

 

[Into the Night]

No one can spin it quite like you.

So you deny history. Gotit.

Trump sent mixed signals about everything. He didn't lead. By HIS OWN ADMISSION, he downplayed the virus to the public.

So? The Covid19 virus is the mildest variant of the Covid/SARS series of viruses so far discovered.

He created the impression in the beginning that it was a hoax, then kept saying it would "disappear."

The hoax was the DEMOCRAT inducing panic over it.

He was a mess. Terrible pandemic President.

Trump did not create the virus nor does he control it.

As for the vaccine, any President would have removed the restrictions that allowed it to be produced so quickly.

Speculation, and not likely.

And he created so much doubt about the virus that MANY of his supporters wouldn't get it when it was ready. He got booed by his own crowd for trying to promote it.

He can promote it all he wants. No vaccine is required or should be required.

Think about that.

I have. You haven't. You are mindlessly quoting scripture from the Church of Covid.

And he also had NO PLAN for deployment and administration of the vaccine - which Biden changed on his 1st day in office.

Blatant lie. The 'vaccine', as you call it, was available a full year before Biden.

The job losses are on Trump.

Trump is not a Democrat.

He is the worst jobs President in modern American history. That is statistical fact.

Discard of history. Buzzword fallacy. No statistical math here. Move along...move along...

 

[Into the Night]

Interesting whataboutism.

History is not 'whataboutism'.

 

[Into the Night]

Demand is collapsing as this recession progresses into a probable depression.

Look at freight data for proof.

We are ALREADY IN an economic depression.

 

[Into the Night]

My former medical partner is a petroleum geologist. He buys leases and works ups the geology and determines where to drill. Then he sells the lease to a producer. He always has a 1/16th override. If he KEEPS those shares rather than selling them then I invest in the project because I knows he has a high degree of confidence. So far it has worked out very well. We have been very successful in natural gas. He and I bought 1200 acres near Midlothian Texas and hit gas then bought 360 acres near it and it hit too. But yes some of our first wells are in decline.

My wife constantly complains about the lack of availability of products at Krogers so she hits two or three stores to find what she wants.

I've been finding shortages at stores as well. I have to go to multiple grocery stores to satisfy my shopping list now.

 

[Into the Night]

What did you want Trump to do Run around pulling his hair out screaming? Of course the President should be calm and understated so as not to cause a panic. You are aware more people have died from COVID during the Biden administration during the Trump administration.

Covid19 does not kill. No variant of the Covid/SARS series of viruses kill.