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That sounds it up nicely... Thank you...
39% = Trump's approval rating
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AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
Trolling or not? Didn't you say you were trolling about the 2020 election?
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
There she is again! 
cawacko
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No doubt, having good candidates matters. But Klein’s Abundance argument goes deeper. It’s not just national, it’s also state and local. If voters in blue states don’t see progress on housing, energy, or costs of living, it’s hard to sell the message nationally. That’s part of why voters turned back to Trump and like the NPR piece said, some voters are unhappy with Trump but still won't necessarily move toward Democrats.
The up for grabs vote will "move toward" the candidate it likes better, as always. From what we've seen so far there is an animus against Trump that didn't exist in 2024 that is likely to help Democrats, as it has already in scattered elections this year around the country.
How's your 401K doing?
cawacko
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When I listen to people on the left, the gist of their argument is that being anti-Trump isn’t enough. The party has lost its footing on what it stands for. I’m not a Democrat, so that’s an internal conversation for them to have, but it does seem a lot easier to be anti-Trump than to look inward.
cawacko
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Feel free to ignore this, I’m just sharing because I found it really interesting. I listened to a podcast this week where Glenn Loury and John McWhorter interviewed Marc Dunkleman about his new book Why Nothing Works: Who Killed Progress—and How to Bring It Back.
Regardless of political leanings, many of us feel government isn’t very responsive, and Dunkleman digs into that. He’s a professor at Brown and identifies as a man of the left. Part of why he wrote the book, he said, is that Democrats present themselves as the party that believes government can improve people’s lives, yet many Americans think of government as their worst day at the DMV.
He points out that in the mid-20th century, people like Robert Moses got things done, but often at a huge cost. In response, the pendulum swung so far the other way that now very little gets done. Dunkleman argues this is part of how you end up with someone like Trump, and he lays out what he thinks progressives need to do to change that.
RCP Average: 46.1% approval.Trump approval drops to record low of second term
President Trump’s approval rating dropped to its lowest level of his second term in the YouGov/Economist poll released Tuesday.
In the weekly survey, conducted this past weekend, 39 percent of surveyed Americans approve of Trump’s handling of the presidency, down from the 41 percent recorded over the last three weeks and 40 percent recorded in mid-August.
In the latest survey, 57 percent of Americans disapprove of the president’s handling of his post, also a record for his second term.
Trump approval drops to record low of second term: Poll
President Trump’s approval rating dropped to its lowest level of his second term in the YouGov/Economist poll released Tuesday. In the weekly survey, conducted this past weekend, 39 percent of surveyed Americans approve of Trump’s handling of the presidency, down from the 41 percent recorded...www.yahoo.com
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Don't have one.
I retired early and live on a generous defined benefit pension, and my social security retirement benefits.
BartenderElite
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This past week has been incredibly bad for Democrats, and for that party. I can't remember anything like this in my lifetime.
There are many people now who see the entire party as a reflection of the vile idiots who celebrated what happened to Kirk. This is not correct - but the Dems have a serious problem w/ that.
It's times like these that I wish we had 3 or 4 viable parties. Maybe that will happen now.
I didn’t read it, but I agree with what your text said.
Reagan put that in a lot of American’s minds that the government IS the problem.
When the fascists came to power about 100 years ago, they attracted the same type of person. People who felt victimized and looked for scapegoats to blame for their own failures.
cawacko
Well-known member
I definitely remember Reagan saying that, but the author's point isn’t really ideological. He wasn't suggesting people are reflexively anti-government, he’s saying people judge government by what they see in action and too often that feels like the DMV. The gap between promise and performance is what he sees as the core problem progressives need to fix.
Well, I live in Idaho and a significant portion of the population sees government as the enemy. I suspect that’s true in some other parts of the country, as well.
Regardless, until the Dems can coalesce around a message and a messenger, their prospects don’t look good.
cawacko
Well-known member
No question there are people who are just straight anti-government.
In this case the author was speaking more to the broad middle, people who aren’t reflexively anti government, but get frustrated by their experience with government when it doesn’t match the promise so to speak.
"MAGA is not who we are.....HAMMER THEM!"
Newsom
Because it Is. It took me a good decade once I left the Navy to realize that most Americans really do think in terms of "there ought to be a law!" first and never consider the "leave us the frick ALONE" perspective.
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
Trump approval drops to record low of second term
President Trump’s approval rating dropped to its lowest level of his second term in the YouGov/Economist poll released Tuesday.
In the weekly survey, conducted this past weekend, 39 percent of surveyed Americans approve of Trump’s handling of the presidency, down from the 41 percent recorded over the last three weeks and 40 percent recorded in mid-August.
In the latest survey, 57 percent of Americans disapprove of the president’s handling of his post, also a record for his second term.
Trump approval drops to record low of second term: Poll
President Trump’s approval rating dropped to its lowest level of his second term in the YouGov/Economist poll released Tuesday. In the weekly survey, conducted this past weekend, 39 percent of surveyed Americans approve of Trump’s handling of the presidency, down from the 41 percent recorded...
It might just mean that Republicans lose the House, or even the Senate.
Unhappy voters, who would not be happy with the other side, do not vote. That is good for Democrats, not as good as getting the votes, but still good.