Yet it's not.
5 ways to tell if you're a Libertarian
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Yet it's not.
Looks like you've joined Nomad as another forum coward. You two go well together. Like two lesbians rubbing your pussies together.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Interesting.
Agreed with #1 as personally experienced on JPP.
Add Alt-Righties to #2. All violent political extremists seem to favor authoritarianism and forcing their views down the throats of all Americans.
#3: The wealth generated by capitalism is the funding that built this country to become the richest in the world. That said, unregulated capitalism led to Cuyahoga River catching fire and Flint water being toxic for children. Common sense should apply to regulated capitalism.
#4. I supported the US response in Afghanistan after 9/11. I believe Clinton's weak response to al-Qaeda and the Taliban led to 9/11. The two great oceans are no longer the moats protecting the US in the 21st Centurya they were for our first 200 years of existence. The US also has a right to protect our trade routes and support our trading partners. See the Capitalism response in #3. That said, while I support international efforts to keep the peace and protect peaceful trade, I'm not a big fan of nation building where the residents don't want international help.
#5 Taxation is a necessity to an extent. Roads need to be paid for. Same for water systems, our military, inspectors, law enforcement, intelligence agencies, etc. As for State taxes, I support State's Rights. If a state taxes unfairly, the residents can move such as they are doing from California to Texas.
You have a stunted education of the world. Libertarians are children playing in the real world with silly beliefs.
the typical ravings of an insane liberal who hasn't yet faced the reality of the world.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Agreed.
Disagreed. 40% of voting Americans do not belong to either the Democratic Party nor the Republican Party. I strongly doubt they are all children with no sense of reality. It's the 40% of Americans who don't vote at all who have silly beliefs IMO.
IBDaMann
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Nope. Libertarians are the right. The right end of the political spectrum values individual liberties, whether or not they are protected by a Constitution. The left end of the political spectrum abhors individual liberties, whether or not they are protected by a Constitution.
Absolutely correct; a truism.
Contradictory. Conservatives stand up for civil rights. Leftists want tyranny.
Unfortunately, you are lumping three mistakes together as though they are the same.
1. Support for LGBTQIAMRDPPIPUSVEOWT-supremacy gets one mocked because they already enjoy full equality under the law, and advocacy for their supremacy is stupid. For this one deserves all the mockery one receives.
2. It is deceitful to hide behind the quip of "marijuana legalization" (which most everybody supports to some extent) to conceal advocacy for outright full legalization of all highly-addictive, and often lethal, drug abuse (and all related commerce) without considering the overwhelmingly prohibitive cost to society. Until one can explain how to ensure all problems and costs related to the thousands of desperate criminals willing to commit any crime just to get a fix, and to all the decay imposed on society by allowing such to occur, i.e. social decay that We the People don't want, the stupid suggestion will always be summarily dismissed.
3. It is deceitful to pretend that all libetarians mean the same thing by "limited government." Just like leftists who only say "immigrants" when discussing illegal immigration, many libertarians are anarchists and want no government at all ... and they say "limited government" as a euphemism to mean "eliminated government." When a libertarian says he wants limited government, the automatic presumption is that he is lying and that he is setting everyone up for a con job.
... because they actually aren't confused. If one won't immediately clarify that one wants a Constitutional republic and that We the People need some government and some police and some military, deliberate concealment of one's position tells everyone everything they need to know.
Whenever I find myself speaking to someone who won't clarify his position on this matter, I immediately change the topic to economics and flesh out the truth.
I've never been accused of such, but with libertarians, yes, that's the default position until clarified otherwise.
You don't get to say "typically" because you don't know. The bottom line is that if one is going to use the label "libertarian" instead of "conservative," he is saying that he differes from the conservative position, and the conservative position is "limited government" ... which means that the libertarian is implying that he might want no government ... but is concealing his intentions. Anyone using the "libertarian" label needs to clarify up front.
Exactly.
Nope. You don't get to say what libertarians "generally" believe. Many are flat-out anarchists.
By the way, the word "generally" means "in all cases", as in a generalization, and does not mean "in most cases" or "for the most part" as you are mistakenly using here.
Correct. It would appear that you are oblivious to the adoption of anarchy by libertarians as well as encouraging fighting against all government.
The Libertarian Party has changed its official wording from advocating for individual liberty to the elimination of governance, in order to cover all anarchists as well as including the "limited government" crowd. The Party also pushes for a world in which all individuals are sovereign, which implies no government/laws at all.
You should take this into account going forward.
Conservatives and all to the political right of them roll their eyes at the suggestion/demand for interference in the free market. Leftists are the ones who want tyranny and government interference, nay domination, of all markets.
These are only people to the left of conservatives.
The NAP is the position of MAGA.
You're using a loaded word, i.e. "theft." Theft is illegal and taxation is not.
All people recognize that taxation is the confiscation of wealth by the government. Nobody likes it except for those who don't pay any. Libertarians think taxation should be abolished. Donald Trump would like to abolish the income tax, and he's not libertarian.
This topic is just a word game involving personal expressions of hatred for taxation.
6) With very few exceptions, they will spend countless hours on the internet defending the regime of Donald Trump and the Republican Party, despite claiming to be a free-thinking Libertarian.