54% of FIRES in L.A. are caused by the Homeless according to a 2023 study

goat said:
I don't know the percent but PG&E are responsible for most California fires.
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PG&E are massively regulated....they dont do much of anything without government approval....making the powerline fires at root government failure.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Okay. If so, then the radical Left is still in part responsible for making environmental laws, regulations, and such that make it damn near impossible for that utility to update and upgrade their grid.
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Its not just that updating has not happened, it is that for many years basic maintenance was not done....with the full knowledge of the government who signed off on not doing it.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Okay. If so, then the radical Left is still in part responsible for making environmental laws, regulations, and such that make it damn near impossible for that utility to update and upgrade their grid.
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I got the hell out. Fire is only one of the many problems in California.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Its not just that updating has not happened, it is that for many years basic maintenance was not done....with the full knowledge of the government who signed off on not doing it.
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To update the system, you'd have to use horizontal boring equipment and run conduit and new wire. In other parts of the US utilities do this regularly to get rid of overhead telephone poles and cables. This improves safety and reliability of the electric utility system to bury it. In California, the permitting process is so labyrinthine, so overbearing, expensive, and slow that nothing gets done like that. The California Coastal Commission would require an environmental impact study along with the permitting process. Getting a permit to run buried cable to replace existing telephone pole electric power could take years and tens of thousands of dollars (at a minimum) to get to the point where you are actually doing the work.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
To update the system, you'd have to use horizontal boring equipment and run conduit and new wire. In other parts of the US utilities do this regularly to get rid of overhead telephone poles and cables. This improves safety and reliability of the electric utility system to bury it. In California, the permitting process is so labyrinthine, so overbearing, expensive, and slow that nothing gets done like that. The California Coastal Commission would require an environmental impact study along with the permitting process. Getting a permit to run buried cable to replace existing telephone pole electric power could take years and tens of thousands of dollars (at a minimum) to get to the point where you are actually doing the work.
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There were far more basic problems, such as tree removal and trimming in the forests around power lines was not done because the so called environmentalists objected.
 
goat said:
We all should be able to agree with that.
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But the states political leaders tend to deny responsibility, and blame it all on the power company.....a claim which the Mind Molders (nee journalists) sell to a largely ignorant public.
 
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