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ZappasGuitar said:
And WHY was that exactly? Because Obstructionist RIGHTIES placed bullshit amendments in each budget that they knew NO Democrat would vote for. A pity obstructionist Righties couldn't just vote on the budget.
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Funny, Blabo must've forgotten that detail.

Poor Blabo.
 
Obama talks an excellent game about bi-partisanship but has he led any (big) bi-partisan legislation in his career? (not a rhetorical question, I don't know the answer)
 
cawacko said:
Obama talks an excellent game about bi-partisanship but has he led any (big) bi-partisan legislation in his career? (not a rhetorical question, I don't know the answer)
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Not since he became the first Black president, as far as I know.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
And WHY was that exactly?

Because Obstructionist RIGHTIES placed bullshit amendments in each budget that they knew NO Democrat would vote for.

A pity obstructionist Righties couldn't just vote on the budget.
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Actually, that isn't true. The budgets voted on unanimously against were not Amended, it was a simple resolution (otherwise it wouldn't have even reached the floor) requiring a vote on the budget as written. The reality is that Obama produces budgets that are only good for increasing debt, or wiping your butt with, and are so cripplingly absurd even Democrats begged for a reason to vote against it. (one year they voted against it because Obama said he wanted to have "further deficit reduction" even though his budget asked for none... the next year they voted against it because the resolution supposedly didn't include "policy language"... which would have been actually superfluous as the policy language would have passed with the resolution since it was part of the budget as written).
 
cawacko said:
Obama talks an excellent game about bi-partisanship but has he led any (big) bi-partisan legislation in his career? (not a rhetorical question, I don't know the answer)
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He can't claim any bi-partisan accomplishments because obstructionist Righties ABSOLUTELY REFUSE to sign on to ANYTHING authored by Democrats and/or supported by Obama.
 
Damocles said:
Actually, that isn't true. The budgets voted on unanimously against were not Amended, it was a simple resolution (otherwise it wouldn't have even reached the floor) requiring a vote on the budget as written. The reality is that Obama produces budgets that are only good for increasing debt, or wiping your butt with, and are so cripplingly absurd even Democrats begged for a reason to vote against it. (one year they voted against it because Obama said he wanted to have "further deficit reduction" even though his budget asked for none... the next year they voted against it because the resolution supposedly didn't include "policy language"... which would have been actually superfluous as the policy language would have passed with the resolution since it was part of the budget as written).
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My mistake...it wasn't amendments, it was language written into the budget itself by obstructionist Righties...thanks for the clarification.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
My mistake...it wasn't amendments, it was language written into the budget itself by obstructionist Righties...thanks for the clarification.
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Again untrue. The resolutions were to vote on the budget as written, since it was written by the Administration it had nothing to do with righties, either obstructionist or not.

They made certain claims... That the resolution didn't contain the entire budget... stupid, it was a resolution to vote on the other, it doesn't need to include it. That the description on the resolution wasn't full, also stupid, it was a resolution to vote on the budget as given.

The budgets were just so bad that the Democrats just couldn't allow themselves to give it a stamp of approval. It should also be noted that control of the Senate has always been Democrat and if they wanted to vote on a budget, which cannot be filibustered, Reid could have brought it forward exactly as it was written without a resolution.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
And WHY was that exactly?

Because Obstructionist RIGHTIES placed bullshit amendments in each budget that they knew NO Democrat would vote for.

A pity obstructionist Righties couldn't just vote on the budget.
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Elaborate big mouth.....link us up to the details....
 
ZappasGuitar said:
My mistake...it wasn't amendments, it was language written into the budget itself by obstructionist Righties...thanks for the clarification.
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Oh really ? Then tell us all about that mysterious language.....was it Latin....maybe Greek....or maybe your pissing on your leg and think its rain .
 
Damocles said:
Again untrue. The resolutions were to vote on the budget as written, since it was written by the Administration it had nothing to do with righties, either obstructionist or not.

They made certain claims... That the resolution didn't contain the entire budget... stupid, it was a resolution to vote on the other, it doesn't need to include it. That the description on the resolution wasn't full, also stupid, it was a resolution to vote on the budget as given.

The budgets were just so bad that the Democrats just couldn't allow themselves to give it a stamp of approval. It should also be noted that control of the Senate has always been Democrat and if they wanted to vote on a budget, which cannot be filibustered, Reid could have brought it forward exactly as it was written without a resolution.
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Democrats didn't vote for the budget because "the resolution offered by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) was different from Obama’s budget because it did not include policy report language. "


Call it what you want...it's still Rightie obstructionism.
 
blackascoal said:
If in the next job report that number drops below 8% .. say bye-bye to Romney.
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You must we're all a dumb as you and Jarod.....

If not even ONE person gets a job and more 10's of thousands leave the job market....the number will do down....and mean absolutely nothing.....
at least to thinking people....
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Democrats didn't vote for the budget because "the resolution offered by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) was different from Obama’s budget because it did not include policy report language. "


Call it what you want...it's still Rightie obstructionism.
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Actually I noted that excuse in the post you quoted, and explained why it was a weak excuse and hogwash.

Also, again, if the Democrats actually wanted to vote on the budget exactly as Obama had written it, since it cannot be filibustered, Reid simply could call it up for a vote.

The "obstructionist" lefties are voting against this President's budgets because the budgets themselves suck so badly that even extreme leftists don't want to mark that with an approval.
 
bravo said:
Oh really ? Then tell us all about that mysterious language.....was it Latin....maybe Greek....or maybe your pissing on your leg and think its rain .
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It was written in plain English and offered by obstructionist Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.).
 
bravo said:
You must we're all a dumb as you and Jarod.....If not even ONE person gets a job and more 10's of thousands leave the job market....the number will do down....and mean absolutely nothing.....at least to thinking people....
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This is an example of Blabo's thinking?

Poor Blabo.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Democrats didn't vote for the budget because "the resolution offered by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) was different from Obama’s budget because it did not include policy report language. "


Call it what you want...it's still Rightie obstructionism.
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Resolutions are stand alone votes and have nothing to do it.....
 
ZappasGuitar said:
He can't claim any bi-partisan accomplishments because obstructionist Righties ABSOLUTELY REFUSE to sign on to ANYTHING authored by Democrats and/or supported by Obama.
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That wasn't the case when Clinton was President. There was plenty of bi-partisan legislation. Bush had Ted Kennedy and George Miller write the NCLB legislation. That was bi-partisan.
 
Basically, the Democrats didn't vote for it because the Democrat leadership won't bring it up for a vote and when resolutions are brought by the other side to vote on it they come up with excuses based on how the resolution was written, even though the resolution would pass the actual budget written by Obama. The republicans bring it up because otherwise there would never be a vote on any budget...

They then offer other budgets, but the Democrats offer none.
 
Damocles said:
Actually I noted that excuse in the post you quoted, and explained why it was a weak excuse and hogwash.

Also, again, if the Democrats actually wanted to vote on the budget exactly as Obama had written it, since it cannot be filibustered, Reid simply could call it up for a vote.

The "obstructionist" lefties are voting against this President's budgets because the budgets themselves suck so badly that even extreme leftists don't want to mark that with an approval.
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Whatever you do, don't admit that obstructionist Righties could have compromised and removed the troubling language.
 
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