A CASE FOR REPARATIONS!

YOU don't talk like an American, YOU talk like an African Negro with a Hatred for 'White People'.
TTQ: "Why the fuck do I want to hear anything else?"
Jack: My point exactly.

TTQ: "Slavery in bumfuck Egypt isn't going to eliminate for profit prisons in the US."
Jack: Only brought up so you can grasp that 'Slavery' was world-wide and NOT just some freak anomaly that happened to black people in America.

TTQ: "I'm talking about the US and the horrors they have caused my people."
Jack: Yes. I get that. Solely self-centered and Afro-centric.

TTQ: "YOU want to talk about something else......and I can understand why."
Jack: I was trying to bring the 'Discussion' into an 'American Perspective'. How 'Americans' view this, not just 'African Negroes'.

I am an American...…..you mean how white America views this...I'm not surprised they are against it. I think it's because they are afraid of being left behind. They can't compete on a equal playing field. They don't want to give up their privilege and need it to get ahead.
 
So free white people who joined the army and fought in a war of their own making deserves reparations?

What part of BLACKS WERE SLAVES do you not understand? I don't see the connection :thinking:

I'm confused???????????????????

My point is there have already been reparations- and part of those are the blood, lives, and limbs of those who fought indiscriminately to free slaves and end slavery.

These men were not drafted! These men volunteered to fight and die for their cause of freedom for all.

Do you have any appreciation for them? You seem to be blaming them.
 
I am an American...…..you mean how white America views this...I'm not surprised they are against it. I think it's because they are afraid of being left behind. They can't compete on a equal playing field. They don't want to give up their privilege and need it to get ahead.

You are turning any valid discussion into a 'Black and White' issue. You are the LAST person to try and have a coherent discussion with. You are totally a 'Afro-centric' individual and have about the same perspective as some redneck that grew up Alabama in 1950.

Any 'discussion' with you is useless. Your 'White Hatred' just clouds anything you have to say.
 
We will accept reparations in the forms of the following:

Eliminate the for profit prison industrial complex

Not going to happen. I have a better idea, stop black crime.

Eliminate the cash bail system

I'm good with this one; we will just keep them in jail until their hearings and trials.

Eliminate Check the box for housing

LIE and LAME.

Eliminate Redlining in housing

LIE and LAME; this was done a long time ago. Just waking up rip-van-winkle?

Eliminate Check the box for employment

LIE and LAME.

Eliminate Background checks for employment

That is an employers Constitutional right. You might as well say something moronic like shred the Constitution.

Eliminate Bias's in Financial Institutions with low cost, low interest rate loans

LIE and LAME. Financial institutions are required by law not to discriminate. They don't care what color you are; but whether you can pay your loan back dumbass.

Eliminate Voting restriction

LIE and LAME. There is only ONE restriction; you have to be 18 or older.

Eliminate the Electoral College

NOT going to happen in your lifetime. WTF does this have to do with slavery? Moron .

Eliminate the Death Penalty

As long as we can ensure murderous predators cannot ever get out, I will support that.

Eliminate Police Unions

NOT going to happen in your lifetime. WTF does this have to do with slavery? Moron .

Eliminate Racist laws such as sagging pants, loitering, skateboarding etc.

NOT going to happen in your lifetime. WTF does this have to do with slavery? Moron .

Eliminate Racial segregation laws

LIE and LAME; this was done a long time ago. Just waking up rip-van-winkle?

Revise and Revamp the ENTIRE LAW ENFORCEMENT SYSTEM hold racist departments, individual kops and the Justice Department accountable.

This is nothing more than a massive pile of lunatic bile.

Revise and Revamp the ENTIRE JUDICIAL SYSTEM Hold racist Judges, DA's, Prosecutors, etc accountable.

This is nothing more than a massive pile of lunatic bile.

Free Healthcare

It isn't free you idiot. Someone else is paying for it. How about getting off your dumb lazy ass and paying for your own?

Free Education

It isn't free you idiot. Someone else is paying for it. How about getting off your dumb lazy ass and paying for your own?

Raise the minimum wage to at lest 25.00 hr.

Another stupid idea that will do NOTHING but lead to fewer jobs. Why stop at a mere $25 an hour? Why not $50 or $100? After all, it's just a bunch of made up bullshit.

And if push comes to shove...…..give us our fuckin 40 acres and a mule!

How about a plane ticket to Zimbabwe?

THIS IS WHAT WE MEAN BY REPERATIONS

THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF STUPID.
 
My point is there have already been reparations- and part of those are the blood, lives, and limbs of those who fought indiscriminately to free slaves and end slavery.

These men were not drafted! These men volunteered to fight and die for their cause of freedom for all.

Do you have any appreciation for them?

You seem to be blaming them.

No YOU are blaming them, I never said that. They volunteered! I'm saying I can't equate them volunteering with reparations for slavery...….they weren't slaves. Kudos to them for fighting in a war their country started. It has absolutely nothing to do with reparations.

This isn't a problem of the past. Slavery begat police forces tasked with catching runaway slaves. That evolved slowly over time to the modern policing system we see today where a Black man laying on his back with his hands in the air gets shot by a racist cop.

A lot of the backlash toward the end of slavery took the form of trying to deny black people land rights. Guess what? Wells Fargo got in hot water two or three years back because they were giving worst interest rates to Black and Latino borrowers than they were their financially equivalent white counterparts. Can't own land w/o a mortgage, and if you go to the wrong bank, you can't get a fair rate on that loan if you're Black.

You know Turkey in the Straw? That fun song the ice cream truck plays? Look up the original minstrel show lyrics.

You know why Ben and Jamima are your uncle and aunt? Because racists couldn't handle calling Black people Mr and Mrs after the war ended. They used aunt and uncle instead.

I could go on, but suffice it to say that almost every aspect of modern racism has its roots in America's cultural and legal approach to slavery.

Also, regardless of when your family came here, we're all still currently, and actively using some pieces of infrastructure built by slaves, including the white house.

The idea that we should pretend we're talking about a problem that's completely over and done with is absurd.
 
You are turning any valid discussion into a 'Black and White' issue. You are the LAST person to try and have a coherent discussion with. You are totally a 'Afro-centric' individual and have about the same perspective as some redneck that grew up Alabama in 1950.

Any 'discussion' with you is useless. Your 'White Hatred' just clouds anything you have to say.

Then why are you still posting to me?
 
I'm not. I'm going out to cut some grass. Have fun pretending like you want to have a 'Discussion'. Bye.

You aren't going anywhere.

You are reading everything I post so you can try to counter it by calling me a racist.

You should stay...….you could use the education.
 
No YOU are blaming them, I never said that. They volunteered! I'm saying I can't equate them volunteering with reparations for slavery...….they weren't slaves. Kudos to them for fighting in a war their country started. It has absolutely nothing to do with reparations.

This isn't a problem of the past. Slavery begat police forces tasked with catching runaway slaves. That evolved slowly over time to the modern policing system we see today where a Black man laying on his back with his hands in the air gets shot by a racist cop.

A lot of the backlash toward the end of slavery took the form of trying to deny black people land rights. Guess what? Wells Fargo got in hot water two or three years back because they were giving worst interest rates to Black and Latino borrowers than they were their financially equivalent white counterparts. Can't own land w/o a mortgage, and if you go to the wrong bank, you can't get a fair rate on that loan if you're Black.

You know Turkey in the Straw? That fun song the ice cream truck plays? Look up the original minstrel show lyrics.

You know why Ben and Jamima are your uncle and aunt? Because racists couldn't handle calling Black people Mr and Mrs after the war ended. They used aunt and uncle instead.

I could go on, but suffice it to say that almost every aspect of modern racism has its roots in America's cultural and legal approach to slavery.

Also, regardless of when your family came here, we're all still currently, and actively using some pieces of infrastructure built by slaves, including the white house.

The idea that we should pretend we're talking about a problem that's completely over and done with is absurd.

I do not have a problem your points about the need for equality! I'm with you there that we still have a way to go there.

I do have a problem with anyone who thinks that they can just be paid off with money now- or that money would somehow satisfy anyone today for the misdeeds of the past!
 
You aren't going anywhere.

You are reading everything I post so you can try to counter it by calling me a racist.

You should stay...….you could use the education.

hahahaha ... sorry. My grass is calling me. After heavy rainfalls, the grass grows geometrically. It's late afternoon and some what 'cool'. Jack only has a small window of opportunity here. But, ... thanks for caring. :)
 
You are brainwashed by the media and the racist right...…...specifically racist white men.

I'm guessing you think Blacks don't skateboard? Just like they don't swim or camp either right?

No, but the majority of people who skateboard are white. So if laws against skateboarding on the sidewalks are an attempt at targeting Blacks, it's a pretty weak one.

And the media is anti-white, not anti-black. There are no news narratives or movies that serve as propaganda against non-white races.
 
I do not have a problem your points about the need for equality! I'm with you there that we still have a way to go there.

I do have a problem with anyone who thinks that they can just be paid off with money now- or that money would somehow satisfy anyone today for the misdeeds of the past!

Please point to the exact place where I stated money would satisfy for misdeeds of the past.

You're a reasonable person...….don't let the racist right fool you into thinking reparations = cutting Blacks a check.

Just curious, did you have a problem with the Italians, Indians and Houlocost survivors getting checks?
 
What if the decendants of slaves received back pay for the free labor they received?

Why wouldn't that be reasonable? We spend that much giving money to Israel for no reason.
 
Please point to the exact place where I stated money would satisfy for misdeeds of the past.

You're a reasonable person...….don't let the racist right fool you into thinking reparations = cutting Blacks a check.

Just curious, did you have a problem with the Italians, Indians and Houlocost survivors getting checks?

I never said you did, but that is all I keep hearing from others on TV.

I don't think you and I have an argument. I made a couple of points here in your thread that I wanted to make- that's all!

So please, let's not argue for arguing's sake in front of others!

Thanks!
 
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