A fetus is a human from conception...unless you are suing a catholic hospital

WinterBorn said:
http://coloradoindependent.com/1268...catholic-hospital-argues-fetuses-arent-people

The doctor is being sued for malpractice stemming from the death of twins. The mother died (and she likely could not have been saved) when she was 7 months pregnant.

Funny how the rules chane when you get sued, isn't it?
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I left the Catholic Church long ago... but I do wonder if this isn't simply a ploy to get a court of law to state that the unborn children were entitled to certain rights. Pure speculation on my part as I would also not put it past the Catholic Church to simply flop around when it suited their purposes.
 
WinterBorn said:
http://coloradoindependent.com/1268...catholic-hospital-argues-fetuses-arent-people

The doctor is being sued for malpractice stemming from the death of twins. The mother died (and she likely could not have been saved) when she was 7 months pregnant.

Funny how the rules chane when you get sued, isn't it?
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Yeah, they definitely are hypocrites. No doubt about that. But, I wonder if the other side of the argument would even think there is a case since they argue that they aren't babies. I argue that they are, and if there was negligence (always hard to prove) then they should pay
 
To point is the law, isn't it......The Catholic Church don't make federal or state laws and the state of the unborn twins is what the state says they are
not what the Church views them as......lawyers argue THE LAW.....not religious doctrine...

Jason Langley, an attorney with Denver-based Kennedy Childs, argued in one of the briefs he filed for the defense, the court “should not overturn the long-standing rule in Colorado that the term ‘person,’ as is used in the Wrongful Death Act, encompasses only individuals born alive. Colorado state courts define ‘person’ under the Act to include only those born alive. Therefore Plaintiffs cannot maintain wrongful death claims based on two unborn fetuses.”

This is the law.....the state defines the law......the state can't have it both ways and the Chruch has no legal standing to override what the state says.
 
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NOVA said:
To point is the law, isn't it......The Catholic Church don't make federal or state laws and the state of the unborn twins is what the state says they are
not what the Church views them as......lawyers argue THE LAW.....not religious doctrine...
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That is a fair point.
 
Now that we've got that out of the way....I'm inclined to agree that the doctor in question and those that were caring for the women still
maybe guilty of something for not doing what was necessary to salvage the babies if it was feasible....
Thats something for the medical and legal experts for decide....
 
Well, isn't this an arguable legal question on which reasonable minds could differ? I mean, the law isn't a static thing that just is. It evolves and the Catholic Church presumably would like to see it evolve in the direction of Church doctrine. It's pretty notable that the Catholic Church is arguing that, contrary to Catholic doctrine, a seven month old fetus isn't a person and has no cognizable legal rights.
 
Dungheap said:
Well, isn't this an arguable legal question on which reasonable minds could differ? I mean, the law isn't a static thing that just is. It evolves and the Catholic Church presumably would like to see it evolve in the direction of Church doctrine. It's pretty notable that the Catholic Church is arguing that, contrary to Catholic doctrine, a seven month old fetus isn't a person and has no cognizable legal rights.
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Exactly!
 
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