A few points about this bullshit re: Marine One not flying due to rain

Bourbon said:
So now their excuse is, Trump really really really wanted to go, but The Secret Service told Trump NO he couldn't visit a Veterans Memorial on Veterans Day.

So is it safe to say Barack Obama never paid the Secret Service any attention ... because Rain never Stopped him?


Stop Digging Boys ... and throw away the Shovel ... you're Deep Enough.

:laugh:
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The rain never bothered him; because he always had the Marines holding his umbrella.

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Hello Kacper,

Kacper said:
[h=1]Obama's Marine One flight to Camp David cut short by weather https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obamas-marine-one-flight-to-camp-david-cut-short-by-weather/[/h]
The ability to fly in bad weather isn't the only issue. Marine One usually flies in a tight formation for security reasons, along with additional aircraft operating in the area.
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You wanna reference what Obama did?

Hey!

There's an idea.

President Trump could have done THIS: (from YOUR link)

The president ... stepped off Marine One, and boarded a motorcade for the remaining 28 miles ...
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floridafan said:
Yes it was a huge blue wave on every level, Federal, state and local. Now just imagine what you would have said if it was Obama who refused to go out in the rain to honor our military.
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What the Fuck are youz tawking about?

You can get married now ...so how is it that you have free time to molesta nosotros?

Trump went there, Trump was there, Trump honor the US military men that fell in France at their graves .... It's in the news!

What the Fuck are youz tawking about?

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Google this:
Trump honors the fallen in France

You'll get this:
Trump spends Veterans Day in France, honors WWI dead
 
bhaktajan said:
What the Fuck are youz tawking about?

You can get married now ...so how is it that you have free time to molesta nosotros?

Trump went there, Trump was there, Trump honor the US military men that fell in France at their graves .... It's in the news!

What the Fuck are youz tawking about?

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Google this:
Trump honors the fallen in France

You'll get this:
Trump spends Veterans Day in France, honors WWI dead
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Not to the proceedings 50 miles away fool. You say you watch the news? Then get up to date asshole.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/11/trump-paris-cemetery-rain-982947

PARIS — President Donald Trump’s decision to cancel his visit to an American military cemetery outside of Paris threatened to overshadow his trip here, as government officials, historians and fellow Republicans hammered him for more than 24 hours for that move.

“President@realDonaldTrump a no-show because of raindrops? Those veterans the president didn’t bother to honor fought in the rain, in the mud, in the snow — & many died in trenches for the cause of freedom. Rain didn’t stop them & it shouldn’t have stopped an American president,” wrote former Secretary of State John Kerry, a veteran of the Vietnam War.
 
They have roads in Europe. Just get up a little earlier. Oh wait. He's up in the wee hours. OK, he's already up. Just stop tweeting long enough to get ready and go.
 
PoliTalker said:
They have roads in Europe. Just get up a little earlier. Oh wait. He's up in the wee hours. OK, he's already up. Just stop tweeting long enough to get ready and go.
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And other leaders had no trouble showing up there

kind of like last year were the other world leaders walked and the feeble old man took a golf cart



Trump is so lazy that instead of strolling with world leaders, he followed behind in a golf cart.


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bhaktajan said:
What the Fuck are youz tawking about?

You can get married now ...so how is it that you have free time to molesta nosotros?

Trump went there, Trump was there, Trump honor the US military men that fell in France at their graves .... It's in the news!


HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Google this:
Trump honors the fallen in France

You'll get this:
Trump spends Veterans Day in France, honors WWI dead
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Trump drew a wave of criticism yesterday for canceling his visit to the Belleau Wood cemetery and battlefield, as rainy weather across France prevented the planned helicopter trip to mark one of the deadliest battle sites of the war. U.S. Secret Service typically requires a good level of visibility to transport the president by helicopter, yet the president’s detractors and some in his own party seized on the cancellation to accuse Trump of lacking respect for fallen soldiers and the military
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Please don't use facts, when the JPP liberals are happy in their "Pit of Despair".
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I don't know whether to call your fucking idiots toadies, poodles, shit eaters, or what. You sure as hell are a bunch of stupid fucks:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3056

(e)(1) When directed by the President, the United States Secret Service is authorized to participate, under the direction of the Secretary of Homeland Security, in the planning, coordination, and implementation of security operations at special events of national significance, as determined by the President.

(2) At the end of each fiscal year, the President through such agency or office as the President may designate, shall report to the Congress—

(A) what events, if any, were designated special events of national significance for security purposes under paragraph (1); and

(B) the criteria and information used in making each designation.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Kacper,



You wanna reference what Obama did?

Hey!

There's an idea.

President Trump could have done THIS: (from YOUR link)
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The thread raised the issue about the ability of Marine One to fly in the rain. You have been presented with a documented case of Marine One not flying in the rain. Having lived in the area and worked in DC, i have seen the formation come in, land, and take off again multiple times and I have seen all the other helicopters and aircraft operating in the area when that happens that don't get shown on TV. It is a big deal even for the half second flight out to board AF1.

I also know that since moving elsewhere, my city has spent weeks preparing ahead of time for Obama and Biden to come through for brief periods working out every single detail of the security people never see like inspecting sewer lines and welding manholes shut, clearing roadsides of all debris, securing routes and alternative routes, etc etc etc. Presidential movement is no small undertaking. Hell, one time it was a complete nightmare when Obama didn't even stop in our city with his motorcade just moving through the outskirts. The police had to secure every entrance and exit point and shut all traffic down for about an hour on two major highways when it only took the Obama motorcade about 15 minutes to enter and leave the area.

A decision was made not to go. You can assume whatever you want to assume, but it wasn't your decision t make and these decisions are not always made by the President. Not a fucking thing you can do about it but whine.
 
The rest of the story is they had cars and could have driven there. But Trump would have had to make 3 or 4 pitstops in the hour long trip. They could have gotten there if Trump wanted to. he blew it off.
 
floridafan said:
Trump drew a wave of criticism yesterday for canceling his visit to the Belleau Wood cemetery and battlefield, as rainy weather across France prevented the planned helicopter trip to mark one of the deadliest battle sites of the war. U.S. Secret Service typically requires a good level of visibility to transport the president by helicopter, yet the president’s detractors and some in his own party seized on the cancellation to accuse Trump of lacking respect for fallen soldiers and the military
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November 11, 2018
(Bloomberg) — President Donald Trump spoke at a military cemetery near Paris, a day after drawing sharp criticism for canceling a trip to a separate cemetery during centenary commemorations of the end of World War I.

Trump hailed the end of “one of the bloodiest conflicts in human history” in a speech Sunday at the Suresnes American Cemetery and Memorial. He called out by name veterans of World War II who were in attendance, thanking them personally for their service.

Trump drew a wave of criticism yesterday for canceling his visit to the Belleau Wood cemetery and battlefield, as rainy weather across France prevented the planned helicopter trip to mark one of the deadliest battle sites of the war. U.S. Secret Service typically requires a good level of visibility to transport the president by helicopter, yet the president’s detractors and some in his own party seized on the cancellation to accuse Trump of lacking respect for fallen soldiers and the military.

http://time.com/5451654/trump-world-war-i-commemoration/

He did but he didn't yet he did but that doesn't un-do how he didn't nevertheless he did...
 
Trump blew off the ceremony honoring the WW1 Vets. He could have gone.
Trump spent Veterans day tweeting in the Whitehouse. Most presidents go down the street to Arlington for a ceremony and a speech.
Trump has not made one visit to see the combat soldiers in any venue.
Anyone see a pattern? It is all about himself.
 
Old Trapper said:
I don't know whether to call your fucking idiots toadies, poodles, shit eaters, or what. You sure as hell are a bunch of stupid fucks:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3056

(e)(1) When directed by the President, the United States Secret Service is authorized to participate, under the direction of the Secretary of Homeland Security, in the planning, coordination, and implementation of security operations at special events of national significance, as determined by the President.

(2) At the end of each fiscal year, the President through such agency or office as the President may designate, shall report to the Congress—

(A) what events, if any, were designated special events of national significance for security purposes under paragraph (1); and

(B) the criteria and information used in making each designation.
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Why lie for Trump ? He does it often enough himself.
 
Hello Kacper,

You had a good post going until you lost it and wrote this:

Kacper said:
Not a fucking thing you can do about it but whine.
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And that's all I now remember from your post.

If you want to discuss politics that's one thing. I enjoy that. You want to vent your frustrations and unload on me? I'd be a fool to agree to that.

That may provide a very short-lived endorphin rush for you to blurt like that, but what's in that for me and how does that help the USA?

Do you understand that there are good upstanding Americans who disagree with you, but whom have every right to enjoy and be a part of this country?

Are you unable to talk to these fellow Americans without losing your cool and becoming angry? Why do you get angry at people who disagree with you?

Do you think you are going to somehow shut them up by being nasty to them?

Or isn't it more likely that when one person is nasty to another person for no good reason, that the other person would simply stop interfacing with the nasty person?

And would that really be a good thing for our nation?

To have our political climate devolve to the point where nobody talks about the issues?

And the only interface between the two sides is nastiness and vulgarities?

How can the USA possibly function like that?

It certainly doesn't make America great.

I certainly want no part of that.
 
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