A Model Society

DigitalDave said:
Yep USC, dealing with medical issues does require a lot more serious decision making than say, buying a laptop. If we just had something like the Carfax report for automobiles when we choose a doctor.
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I agree completely. I've lost a couple of friends to blatant misdiagnoses. I'm just waiting for somebody to sue the medical schools that let these bozos graduate. Seriously.
 
Thorn, did you see that special a few months ago about staff infections in hospitals (PBS I think)? In the film everyone claimed to wash their hands when they should, but hidden cameras proved otherwise. After the expose, the staff infection rates dropped something like 85%.
Just shoddy work on many levels.
 
Thorn said:
I agree completely. I've lost a couple of friends to blatant misdiagnoses. I'm just waiting for somebody to sue the medical schools that let these bozos graduate. Seriously.
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My g/f is in med school right now, recieving a 4.0 every semester so far. The other girls in her class are pissed that she won't let them cheat off of her. I told her I wouldn't want a dumbass who had to cheat to get through school to put a needle in my arm.

Though my g/f hate some of the teachers and feels its unfair that she works so hard for her grade, and sometimes the teacher will give credit when everyone else in the class screws up a test. She was the only one with an A on a few tests and sometimes the next closest was a C. The teacher would give them 'bonus points' so they can pass. Ridiculous. She's decided not to go to that school after she gets her Associates and finish up at another school for her Bachelors.
 
DigitalDave said:
My g/f is in med school right now, recieving a 4.0 every semester so far. The other girls in her class are pissed that she won't let them cheat off of her. I told her I wouldn't want a dumbass who had to cheat to get through school to put a needle in my arm.

Though my g/f hate some of the teachers and feels its unfair that she works so hard for her grade, and sometimes the teacher will give credit when everyone else in the class screws up a test. She was the only one with an A on a few tests and sometimes the next closest was a C. The teacher would give them 'bonus points' so they can pass. Ridiculous. She's decided not to go to that school after she gets her Associates and finish up at another school for her Bachelors.
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Kudos to your g/f.
Work hard and earn everything you get, but get everything you earn. She will be a much better person for it. Don't let the deadbeats get to ya.
 
DigitalDave said:
That's just never going to work WM. There are only a few options to level the playing field, and all options have unintended consequences that will screw shit up worse in the long run.
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I believe everyone should be guaranteed a basic level of healthcare. If someone wishes to purchase extraordinarily expensive healthcare that would be unreasonable for everybody to be provided, then so be it.

National healthcare has proven to be cost effective. France spends half as much as we do in healthcare costs, and their medical system is considered to be friviously expensive by most of the world. British citizens pay, like, 1/3rd of what we pay for healthcare.
 
DigitalDave said:
My g/f is in med school right now, recieving a 4.0 every semester so far. The other girls in her class are pissed that she won't let them cheat off of her. I told her I wouldn't want a dumbass who had to cheat to get through school to put a needle in my arm.

Though my g/f hate some of the teachers and feels its unfair that she works so hard for her grade, and sometimes the teacher will give credit when everyone else in the class screws up a test. She was the only one with an A on a few tests and sometimes the next closest was a C. The teacher would give them 'bonus points' so they can pass. Ridiculous. She's decided not to go to that school after she gets her Associates and finish up at another school for her Bachelors.
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OK, so she's in premed? I also applaud her attitude, but it disturbs me that this should be considered unique. Med. school admissions have always been extremely competitive and there are unfailingly some individuals who would do anything to bypass requirements (i.e., cheat) to get in and/or pass. This is distressing but a fact of life that has to be recognized and dealt with.

Our approach to the curriculum has changed drastically in the past three or so years, and has become more a problem-solving-based approach rather than a memorize and regurgitate method that was in place for many decades. On the whole our students are brighter than the generation that preceded them, and admissions criteria tend to be tougher because of limited class sizes. On the other hand, the university seems to be deathly afraid of lawsuits and will bend over backwards to help students pass, usually justified but occasionally not. There are always one or two students each year who require unlimited time because of learning disabilities to complete their exams. Frankly I don't want those people responsible for my diagnoses and care! When it comes to that, I think that there should be limitations on the extent to which allowances should be made for certain disabilities. As I said, I certainly don't want these people looking after me.
 
Thorn said:
? I'm assuming that this is or was a TV show? Sorry, I missed it.
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Yeah it is, and not very good either. Just BS. A rebel DR kind of show. Hawkeye House I think is name is.
Amazing how themes recycle and people still suck em up.
 
uscitizen said:
Yeah it is, and not very good either. Just BS. A rebel DR kind of show. Hawkeye House I think is name is.
Amazing how themes recycle and people still suck em up.
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He's a Diagnostician, supposedly the best in the US. He's addicted to Vicodin and tends to be emotionless and relentless.

It is actually quite a good show. And his name is Gregory House, not "Hawkeye", it isn't M.A.S.H. and has nothing to do with a war or with comedy. Other than his callousness can often be funny.
 
Thorn said:
OK, so she's in premed? I also applaud her attitude, but it disturbs me that this should be considered unique. Med. school admissions have always been extremely competitive and there are unfailingly some individuals who would do anything to bypass requirements (i.e., cheat) to get in and/or pass. This is distressing but a fact of life that has to be recognized and dealt with.

Our approach to the curriculum has changed drastically in the past three or so years, and has become more a problem-solving-based approach rather than a memorize and regurgitate method that was in place for many decades. On the whole our students are brighter than the generation that preceded them, and admissions criteria tend to be tougher because of limited class sizes. On the other hand, the university seems to be deathly afraid of lawsuits and will bend over backwards to help students pass, usually justified but occasionally not. There are always one or two students each year who require unlimited time because of learning disabilities to complete their exams. Frankly I don't want those people responsible for my diagnoses and care! When it comes to that, I think that there should be limitations on the extent to which allowances should be made for certain disabilities. As I said, I certainly don't want these people looking after me.
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Yep, she's premed, and apperantly since its fast-paced, a lot of the students that are in with her already have to take a good amount of classes over. A few teachers are leniant while others very strict.
 
uscitizen said:
Yeah it is, and not very good either. Just BS. A rebel DR kind of show. Hawkeye House I think is name is.
Amazing how themes recycle and people still suck em up.
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The show really has nothing going for it besides that character. And the diagnoses that just fall into his lap are always ridiculous. That's sort of what I was talking about - I was mocking the fact that he was always magically coming up with correct diagnosis's, whenever a doctor that acted like that would've had his medical license revoked by now.

It's a pretty good show, just absolutely nothing like real medicine.
 
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