Sirthinksalot
Verified User
The burden of proof is on you. There's no way for me to prove I'm not something. It's on you to prove I am.
a primary election is not a government election
- Thread starter evince
- Start date
The burden of proof is on you. There's no way for me to prove I'm not something. It's on you to prove I am.
evince
Truthmatters
Propaganda is worthy of discussion? Really? Zig Heil!
ralph
go get the time I was wrong you were speaking of
so I can apologize if its true
This is not entirely true. A primary is a party function but it is often regulated by state law. Some states determine the date and type of primary and others leave that largely to the party organizations. And, states often pay part or all of the cost of administering the primary. In presidential primaries state regulations may determine if delegates are bound to support a candidate. The national party convention is almost entirely controlled by the national party committees. Direct primaries and presidential primaries are completely different animals.
Sirthinksalot
Verified User
I have not.
evince
Truthmatters
no one broke any state or federal law by not treating Sanders like they were treating all the other candidates in the primary
Sanders didn't have to run on the Democratic ticket
that was his choice
we said OK
and then he wouldn't act like a democratic member
he didn't raise money for the down ticket Dems
he didn't help campaign for the down ticket people
he didn't make sure his crowds got registered to vote
he also then used the RUSSIAN LIES ( which he knew were lies) against his promise to be allowed to run as a Democratic party member
Its time for the Bernie people to face they got played by the Russians
the Russians fake news TARGETED THEM
its been proven
Bernie is not a Democrat
hes a socialist
which is fine if that is what he believes
But that is nit in line with the Democratic party beliefs
So next time he needs to run in the Socialist Party primary
NOT OURS
Nobody challenges any of your statements but that has nothing to do with whether a primary is a government election.
All those (primarily Democrats) who complained believed the party was trying to manipulate the system to nominate Clinton. Turns out this was true and was against the concept of the party remaining neutral on this issue. Because Barney was not a Democrat or campaign for other Democrats does not allow the party to treat him different under current rules.
However, those who think Sanders was cheated are just making loser claims. Hillary won 2 million more votes than Barney and was clearly the choice of most Democrats.
The problem is the weakness of political parties. If a person wins a majority of delegates they are the party nominee regardless of their past affiliation, issue stands, criminal history.......The parties used to nominate candidates without popular votes and refuse to renominate a candidate who did not support the party.
Which right winger said a primary is a government election?
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
every time Desh speaks, the DNC says "no, please!......no more!"......
Bernie is an independent. The Democratic party allowed him to run as a Dem. They allowed him to debate Hillary on stage. It was a format paid for by the Dems. Bernie got national attention because the Dems allowed him to debate. The rules were decided by the Dems. Bernie could have refused to debate her and he would have faded from the limelight. Bernie has no complaint. He never was close to beating her.
Sirthinksalot
Verified User
I forgot to mention, sometimes primaries are government elections. There are plenty of nonpartisan elections, in which the primary is a government election. If one candidate in these elections does not get over half of the votes, the top two face off in a general election.
So to quote evince, to evince, bite a dead mules cock!
So to quote evince, to evince, bite a dead mules cock!
Althea
Althea told me...........
Whereas this is true, no candidate wins without the vote of the Independents. Which is what happened with Hillary. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks about being 'cheated'. Sanders would have gotten the Dem base in the general, along with the overwhelming majority of Independents.
Short sighted on the part of the Dem. party. But that's hindsight. Hillary was the most qualified to run the country. Her baggage was simply too much to overcome.
Althea
Althea told me...........
Not quite accurate. In theory, he felt that running as an Indy would split the Dem ticket. I'm sure he started out wanting to pull Hillary to the Left. He never dreamed he would garner the support that he did, and it got way bigger than anyone dreamed it would. Had anyone ever dreamed that trump would make such a clown show out of the election, Dems might have gone with Bernie.
Of course, Comey's thumb on the scale really harmed the entire process.
Independent votes are needed in the general election but not so much in the presidential primaries and caucuses. I disagree about Sanders getting the votes of independents or even as many of the Democratic base as Clinton. There were many who voted for Clinton who said they would not vote for Sanders.
Althea
Althea told me...........
Trust me...they would have voted for Sanders. There were many Sanders Indies who voted for trump. I don't believe the Dem base would have stayed home for this election, the way the youth/black voters did.
The issue is if Bernie would have run as an Indie.
A nonpartisan election does not hold a primary because no parties are involved. Maybe you are referring to a blanket primary like in CA, LA, or WA. In those all candidates run on the same ballot rather than separate Dem or Rep primary ballots. They still run under party labels (except independents) and the top two appear in the general election ballot or, depending on the state, the top candidate wins office if he gets over 50%. But there are not plenty of those. Some states hold nonpartisan elections for offices like school district and city officials in which no party labels are used and therefore no primary is held.
Minister of Truth
Practically Perfect
The most RANK, in fact.
Sirthinksalot
Verified User
In Wisconsin, state supreme court justices are elected on a state wide ballot. It is a non partisan position, although people are well aware of the ideology of the candidates. There is an election coming up with 3 candidates. It is consistently being referred to as a primary election in the news media, with the top 2 vote getters advancing to the general election. Perhaps the news media people don't know what they're talking about, but they seem well informed.
Sirthinksalot
Verified User
They referred to themselves as "nasty women", probably a reference to odor and lack of hygiene.
Last edited:
Oh...I don't know if can recall any instance were you are in support of fascist tactics and parrot the propaganda that endorses such horseshit.
Posts #1/2 on this thread.....you are suggesting that's it OK with you if a powerful political machine purchases power that prohibits any competition in a primary election. That is Bullshit and in support of FASCISM. Then you appear to have no problem whatsoever with the bought and paid for RUSSIAN COLLUSION propaganda hit piece of a "foreign" agent that was used to spy upon a political opponent in the middle of a "GENERAL" presidential election. You are the quint essential FASCIST puppet.....but its clear you are no more guilty than is an animal that does not possess the logical link to cognitive reasoning and deductive conclusions. You think and reason in streams of "emotion" regardless of the reality that surrounds you. Layman's terms? You are not capable of thinking for yourself.
Thus....the reason you "feel" threatened into defending your political idol...you fear she is headed to a place that has only one choice of wardrobe..ORANGE. I could care less about your apologies....your opinion means nothing....I simply enjoy pointing out FASCISM when its conducted. Your feigned apology does not change the factual reality that surrounds you....it only makes you "FEEL" good in an attempt to justify your support of evil.
Last edited: