A reality check on the corona virus reactions.

Taichiliberal

Taichiliberal

Shaken, not stirred!
While I AM NOT saying that precautions shouldn't be taken regarding Covid-19, I can't help but look at the sheer numbers and come to the conclusion that the vast majority of the near hysteria prompted by our state and local governments is over-rated. Check this out:


A state-by-state breakdown of US coronavirus cases



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a...-of-us-coronavirus-cases/ar-BB10FUz1?ocid=sf2

I'm willing to discuss this rationally with anyone who is willing to put grudges aside.
 
I live in a small town...pop 4,149..picked up bread milk and ground chuck and yes toilet paper today

Never been any lines at the store!
 
volsrock said:
I live in a small town...pop 4,149..picked up bread milk and ground chuck and yes toilet paper today

Never been any lines at the store!
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That might be the same for other small towns in America...something not touted on network news. My thing is the numbers just don't jibe with this "it's 90% fatal!" mantra. This stuff has been in the general population for 6 weeks before our national health departments got their butts in gear.....by their reckoning, people should be dropping like flies by now. It's OVER-reaction.
 
Taichiliberal said:
That might be the same for other small towns in America...something not touted on network news. My thing is the numbers just don't jibe with this "it's 90% fatal!" mantra. This stuff has been in the general population for 6 weeks before our national health departments got their butts in gear.....by their reckoning, people should be dropping like flies by now. It's OVER-reaction.
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Welcome to reality.
 
The Anonymous said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
I AM NOT saying that precautions shouldn't be taken regarding Covid-19.
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Aren't you?

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
I can't help but look at the sheer numbers and come to the conclusion that the vast majority of the near hysteria prompted by our state and local governments is over-rated.
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Can't you?

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
I'm willing to discuss this rationally with anyone who is willing to put grudges aside.
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Are you?
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1. Nope. I clearly stated as such in no uncertain terms. How did you interpret otherwise?
2. Nope. compare the infection lists to the hospitalization lists to the fatality list. Nothing seems to match up with past flu seasons.
3. I said so, didn't I?
 
Legion said:
Originally Posted by volsrock
I live in a small town...pop 4,149..picked up bread milk and ground chuck and yes toilet paper today

Never been any lines at the store!
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Looks like one liberal has awakened, doesn't it?
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Awakened to what, by your standards? It's the administration you endorse who is pushing this. And objective analysis does not take political sides (or at least it shouldn't).
 
Legion said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
That might be the same for other small towns in America...something not touted on network news. My thing is the numbers just don't jibe with this "it's 90% fatal!" mantra. This stuff has been in the general population for 6 weeks before our national health departments got their butts in gear.....by their reckoning, people should be dropping like flies by now. It's OVER-reaction.
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Welcome to reality.
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https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...-corona-virus-reactions&p=3555679#post3555679
 
Legion said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
It's the administration you endorse who is pushing this.
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Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
I can't help but look at the sheer numbers and come to the conclusion that the vast majority of the near hysteria prompted by our state and local governments is over-rated.
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The Trump Administration is not "state and local government".
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Nope, it's federal.....who have near daily press conference telling the world who is in charge, leading the pack. Sometimes us old heads refer to the federal gov't as "the state" and lump in local gov't as state, county, city.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Nope, it's federal.....who have near daily press conference telling the world who is in charge, leading the pack. Sometimes us old heads refer to the federal gov't as "the state" and lump in local gov't as state, county, city.
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The chronology of the posts does not support that contention, and your excuse that "old heads refer to the federal gov't as "the state" and lump in local gov't as state, county, city" is absurd.

You said
Taichiliberal said:
I can't help but look at the sheer numbers and come to the conclusion that the vast majority of the near hysteria prompted by our state and local governments is over-rated.
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Taichiliberal said:
While I AM NOT saying that precautions shouldn't be taken regarding Covid-19, I can't help but look at the sheer numbers and come to the conclusion that the vast majority of the near hysteria prompted by our state and local governments is over-rated. Check this out:


A state-by-state breakdown of US coronavirus cases



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a...-of-us-coronavirus-cases/ar-BB10FUz1?ocid=sf2

I'm willing to discuss this rationally with anyone who is willing to put grudges aside.
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I agree with you. But I think the number of infections is going to be HUGE along with the number of recoveries. I think the grand total deaths will be on par with the rest of the pandemics of the past 25 years, maybe bigger, and the bulk of those will be elderly and immune compromised. That's what I've heard from medical experts, and that's what I believe
 
Taichiliberal said:
While I AM NOT saying that precautions shouldn't be taken regarding Covid-19, I can't help but look at the sheer numbers and come to the conclusion that the vast majority of the near hysteria prompted by our state and local governments is over-rated. Check this out:


A state-by-state breakdown of US coronavirus cases



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a...-of-us-coronavirus-cases/ar-BB10FUz1?ocid=sf2

I'm willing to discuss this rationally with anyone who is willing to put grudges aside.
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Over 26 million diagnosed, over 250K hospitalized, and over 14K dead from the flu and nothing remotely close to the over-reaction we're seeing now.

What disappoints me more than the over-reaction is how many people were so quickly and easily willing to give up their freedoms because the government told them to do so. Don't think it's not a test to see the level to which people are willing to be controlled.
 
Taichiliberal said:
1. Nope. I clearly stated as such in no uncertain terms. How did you interpret otherwise?
2. Nope. compare the infection lists to the hospitalization lists to the fatality list. Nothing seems to match up with past flu seasons.
3. I said so, didn't I?
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3. Your problem is that unless people agree with you or say what you want to hear, you don't consider it rational. What you say is not how you apply it.
 
Taichiliberal said:
That might be the same for other small towns in America...something not touted on network news. My thing is the numbers just don't jibe with this "it's 90% fatal!" mantra. This stuff has been in the general population for 6 weeks before our national health departments got their butts in gear.....by their reckoning, people should be dropping like flies by now. It's OVER-reaction.
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Yes you are exactly right, this has been hyped beyond all rhyme or reason. The proper way to have approached the problem was to ensure the vulnerable and at risk were isolated, test those showing symptoms like high temperature and dry cough, as well as essential staff like nurse, doctors. That's exactly what they've done in Korea and Japan.
 
Havana Moon said:
Yes you are exactly right, this has been hyped beyond all rhyme or reason. The proper way to have approached the problem was to ensure the vulnerable and at risk were isolated, test those showing symptoms like high temperature and dry cough, as well as essential staff like nurse, doctors. That's exactly what they've done in Korea and Japan.
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That was even what TCL seemed to be admitting yesterday.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...A-reality-check-on-the-corona-virus-reactions
 
Taichiliberal said:
While I AM NOT saying that precautions shouldn't be taken regarding Covid-19, I can't help but look at the sheer numbers and come to the conclusion that the vast majority of the near hysteria prompted by our state and local governments is over-rated. Check this out:


A state-by-state breakdown of US coronavirus cases



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a...-of-us-coronavirus-cases/ar-BB10FUz1?ocid=sf2

I'm willing to discuss this rationally with anyone who is willing to put grudges aside.
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I have repeatedly said that the panic and hoarding is ridiculous and unmerited

I believe the reason COVID-19 is substantially different than the common cold is that it has potential to overwhelm the healthcare system. The rate of infection, the fraction of patients requiring hospitalization, and the mortality rate are substantially higher than common influenza strains, according to the medical experts.
 
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