A right to not be shot......where is that at?

SmarterthanYou said:
you're talking about shooting people unlawfully being a criminal act, fine. is there a RIGHT to not be SHOT?????
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Try this one:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
 
kudzu said:
Try this one:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
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is that part of the constitution? no. so domer76 would laugh at you, as well as saying there are no unalienable rights. But I digress.

I showed you the court cases where it says you have no such right........not even a right to not be framed by your government. are you getting the point yet?????
 
SmarterthanYou said:
is that part of the constitution? no. so domer76 would laugh at you, as well as saying there are no unalienable rights. But I digress.

I showed you the court cases where it says you have no such right........not even a right to not be framed by your government. are you getting the point yet?????
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Declaration of Independence........
 
SmarterthanYou said:
it's unsettling for most people to be shown the reality that their government isn't their benevolent protector, or that they are actually going to be beholden to fulfilling their constitutionally assigned role. It's why most posts of mine are ridiculed or met with insults.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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I suspect many of your posts are ridiculed or met with insults...because YOU resort to ridicule and hurling insults in so many of YOUR posts.

I suspect that has A LOT more to do with the ridicule and insults...than that you supposedly "tell truths."
 
SmarterthanYou said:
it's unsettling for most people to be shown the reality that their government isn't their benevolent protector, or that they are actually going to be beholden to fulfilling their constitutionally assigned role. It's why most posts of mine are ridiculed or met with insults.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Holy crap you like to live in a special place
 
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Gotta love it when liberals suddenly embrace principles they usually recoil and flee from . . .

Actually, the "revolution" is based on these people violating the core principle of the Declaration of Independence, alienating their rights, including their right to life, surrendering it to government's care and consideration.

Such a conflict of concepts, an exclamation of confusion, couldn't be depicted any more clearly.

LOL . . .

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This is what American conservatism has become...

...a group wanting not to be governed.

But society and true freedom are a function of government.

Less and less government leads to anarchy and chaos.

But American conservatives...just as with Donald Trump...dream up simplistic and unworkable solutions for problems that are a natural part of society.

Some of the remarks made in this forum by American conservatives and by libertarians...

...should disgust anyone with any who can actually think.
 
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police state supporters always argue that more regulations and laws equal more freedom.......

the fact that you actually believe you are only free when everyone is oppressively controlled speaks volumes for your desire for slavery
 
SmarterthanYou said:
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police state supporters always argue that more regulations and laws equal more freedom.......

the fact that you actually believe you are only free when everyone is oppressively controlled speaks volumes for your desire for slavery
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I've never heard anyone argue for a "police state"...and accepting that society needs rules and laws DOES NOT equal wanting a "police state"...except for the nut-cases that now make up the core of American conservatism and the libertarians.

Wanting decent governance is NOT a desire for slavery.

A decent case can be made that libertarianism...and the disgusting thing that American conservatism has become...is a recipe for anarchy and chaos.

The people heading in that direction can NEVER WIN...because even if they prevail, they will be losers just like everyone else will be.

They are just too ignorant and close-minded to realize it.
 
Frank Apisa said:
I've never heard anyone argue for a "police state"...and accepting that society needs rules and laws DOES NOT equal wanting a "police state"...except for the nut-cases that now make up the core of American conservatism and the libertarians.

Wanting decent governance is NOT a desire for slavery.

A decent case can be made that libertarianism...and the disgusting thing that American conservatism has become...is a recipe for anarchy and chaos.

The people heading in that direction can NEVER WIN...because even if they prevail, they will be losers just like everyone else will be.

They are just too ignorant and close-minded to realize it.
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when leftists and progressives argue for government control over every aspect of individual lives and corporate actions, it's disingenuous to declare that its not a desire for slavery.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
A right to not be shot......where is that at?
i've heard this many times over the last few years, so someone show where, exactly, this right exists.
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Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Adopted by the United States and the UN General Assembly, December 1948

Article 3.

Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
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SmarterthanYou said:
when leftists and progressives argue for government control over every aspect of individual lives and corporate actions, it's disingenuous to declare that its not a desire for slavery.
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Show me ANYWHERE, ANYONE arguing for government control over every aspect of individual lives and corporate actions.

Do you ever post an intelligent, reasonable argument?
 
Frank Apisa said:
This is what American conservatism has become...

...a group wanting not to be governed.

But society and true freedom are a function of government.

Less and less government leads to anarchy and chaos.

But American conservatives...just as with Donald Trump...dream up simplistic and unworkable solutions for problems that are a natural part of society.

Some of the remarks made in this forum by American conservatives and by libertarians...

...should disgust anyone with any who can actually think.
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You know, at least I show you the respect of precisely quoting you when I disagree and laying out my argument.

You don't reply to that of course, you have nothing to say to direct rebuttals to you, you choose the passive-aggressive path of the BS above.

Just once, stand on your convictions and pull out a statement and rebut it.

This pansy-ass whining is pathetic.
 
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