Good man, there's never a reason for non-professionals to get upset about a game. That defeats the purpose of the Zen in playing it
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Good man, there's never a reason for non-professionals to get upset about a game. That defeats the purpose of the Zen in playing it
Dutch Uncle
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Yes. He claims to be a Christian without ever acting like one. Same for your nemesis and Lig. They can claim anything they want, but their actions reveal who they are.
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Extraterrestrials are a possibility that fits within the confines of reality. Faries and deities are not.
IBDaMann
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I have a minor quibble with your wording. "Reality" is not the correct word.
Extraterrestrials are a possibility within nature. Fairies and deities are supernatural.
Dutch Uncle
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Arthur C. Clarke's Third Law of Prediction comes into play here: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Regardless if it's space aliens or our future selves visiting from the future, they would certainly have impact upon the unwashed primitives who made up the human race thousands of years ago. It's not a stretch to see how some might form a religion around such visitations.
Arthur C. Clarke formulated the following three “laws” of prediction:
1. When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
2. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
3. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Dutch Uncle
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Agreed on all points, Frank. Atheism is a belief that there is nothing beyond the Natural Universe.
I just don't think armadillos, wild dog packs, or water buffalo think this deeply and abstractly about ethical perfection.
Bhagavad-Gita, chapter 16
Fearlessness, purity of being, knowledge, generosity, discipline, sacrifice, sacred study, austerity, honesty, non-harm, truth, non-anger, letting go, peace, non-slander, kindness to living things, non-greed, gentleness, modesty, non-caprice, energy, forgiveness, resolve, cleanliness, non-aggression, non-arrogance -- those exist in one born to godly assets
Zhuangzi:
humans who have freed themselves from the slavery of conventional standards of judgement and desire can no longer be made to suffer. Poverty isn't anymore desirable than affluence, life isn't any more desirable than death. But to withdraw from the world would render a judgement on the world. So the Daoist remains within society but refrains from acting out of motives that lead conventional humans to struggle for wealth, fame, reputation, success, security. He maintains a course of action that is not purposefully motivated by any gain or reward. In such a state human action becomes spontaneous and effortless. Humans become one with heaven, and merge with the Dao.
Analects of Confucius, Chapter XVI-10:
Confucius said, “There are nine things upon which a gentleman focuses his attention: in regard to using his eyes, he is anxious to see clearly; when listening, he focuses on being discerning; in his countenance, he is anxious to be amiable; in his demeanor, he focuses on being reverent; in his speech, he focuses on being dutiful; in his actions, he focuses on being respectful; when in doubt, he focuses on asking questions; when angry, he focuses on thinking about the the difficulties he may cause others ; and when he sees gain to be gain, he focuses upon righteousness.
Bhagavad-Gita, chapter 16
Fearlessness, purity of being, knowledge, generosity, discipline, sacrifice, sacred study, austerity, honesty, non-harm, truth, non-anger, letting go, peace, non-slander, kindness to living things, non-greed, gentleness, modesty, non-caprice, energy, forgiveness, resolve, cleanliness, non-aggression, non-arrogance -- those exist in one born to godly assets
Zhuangzi:
humans who have freed themselves from the slavery of conventional standards of judgement and desire can no longer be made to suffer. Poverty isn't anymore desirable than affluence, life isn't any more desirable than death. But to withdraw from the world would render a judgement on the world. So the Daoist remains within society but refrains from acting out of motives that lead conventional humans to struggle for wealth, fame, reputation, success, security. He maintains a course of action that is not purposefully motivated by any gain or reward. In such a state human action becomes spontaneous and effortless. Humans become one with heaven, and merge with the Dao.
Analects of Confucius, Chapter XVI-10:
Confucius said, “There are nine things upon which a gentleman focuses his attention: in regard to using his eyes, he is anxious to see clearly; when listening, he focuses on being discerning; in his countenance, he is anxious to be amiable; in his demeanor, he focuses on being reverent; in his speech, he focuses on being dutiful; in his actions, he focuses on being respectful; when in doubt, he focuses on asking questions; when angry, he focuses on thinking about the the difficulties he may cause others ; and when he sees gain to be gain, he focuses upon righteousness.
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IBDaMann
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Actions? On an internet forum?
It looks like Terry is role-playing Judge God. How nice. Terry really gets a fix pretending to be the wrathful God of the Old Testament.
Terry, Terry, Terry.
Dutch Uncle
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No. Did you ever read the rules?
Margot
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Amen
Margot
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It would help to try and connect each and find a common denominator
Dutch Uncle
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There is a common denominator: Homo sapiens sapiens.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Homo-sapiens-sapiens
Pioneer 10 space probe https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/missions/pioneer-10/in-depth/
From what I have read in the sociological sciences, all strands of human experience and thought are not strictly independent from one another, but framed by an underlying code of culture, language, and ritual that I believe Claude Levi-Strauss and other sociologists called structuralism.
Dutch Uncle
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Agreed with Structuralism. Consider a new CEO of a large corporation. There are people who have worked there for years, if not decades. There is a corporate culture. There is a physical structure to the office, which may or may not be efficient but unlikely to change due to costs. While the new CEO may have some grand ideas and seek to implement them, it's like turning a large ship, a megatanker. It takes time.
In government, Presidents often lament that 8 years isn't enough to enact change. To turn the ship using the analogy above. The underlying structure is labeled by the Trumpers as "the Deep State".
Of course, being paranoid fuckwits, the Trumpers think of the "Deep State" as being guided by the Jews, the commies or "the Woke", but the reality is that it's the same as the previously described corporation: thousands of career workers who have been there for years.
LOL @ deep state.
Even science tends to be driven by an underlying code of human cultural and ritualistic bias. Aristotle, Copernicus, even Einstein really wanted the universe to be symmetric and static in it's overall framework -- because there is something about symmetry and unchanging gracefulness which just appeals to human nature
IBDaMann
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Another meaningless and stupid statement from you. Would you care to explain how science is not simply a collection of objective, falsifiable models that predict nature? Would you care to explain this "code" underlying Relativity, Stefan-Boltzmann and Wein's law?
You don't ask questions in good faith, and you aren't genuinely interested in answers.
The last time you tried to ask me a "gotcha!" question, it blew up in your face and you ran away from the thread -->
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...y-of-you-are-Christians&p=5597945#post5597945
When you start asking questions in good faith, you might get access to my time.
IBDaMann
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We've been over this. You don't get to declare my level of interest. If I'm asking a question, it's because I want to know the answer. When I'm not genuinely interested in an answer, I don't ask the question.
When you EVADE my questions that are difficult for you, because you don't have a fucking clue about really anything you discuss on this site, you naturally try to blame me for it. It signals that you need another round of corn-holing from Terry.
The last time you EVADED my request to identify gods (and not metaphysical spirits) in the Dhammapada, it blew up in your face and you ran away from the thread --> https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...y-of-you-are-Christians&p=5596411#post5596411
When you start answering questions in good faith, you might get access to my time.