A trial without witnesses is unconstitutional.

Um...Frank, none of those are impeachable.

You did not ask about impeachability. You asked, "What's not to like about him?"

That was what I answered.

I no longer expect much in the way of character and integrity and honesty in a president.

I do. And, for the most part, I get it. (Not with this guy.)

I just want a junkyard dog, vicious American patriot who puts America and Americans (workers and voters) first.

That is your right...as of now. If we became a dictatorship...it might become an obligation of sorts.

That’s about all we can hope for.anymore.

Please do not think I am part of that "we."

I hope for much more...and I think we can get it. I think many of the people who in my opinion are showing almost no character, integrity, or honesty right now...can show enough elements of all those things to be of use to decent governance.

Trump is sweeping so much of that away, though.

I understand that you feel differently on this, Earl. That is part of the deal we made to agree to disagree.
 
The fanatics in the House knew impeachment would fail in the Senate.

It was a political stunt to affect the 2020 elections.

I expect it to be affective, a Red wave in November as voters take retribution on these Democrat fanatics who were calling for impeachment from day one of President Trump’s presidency.
 
Hello Walt,

How to get rid of Trump: Vote Blue No Matter Who.

Now you get it lol.

If Democrats had just resigned themselves to the fact that they would have to vote Trump out of office, instead of contriving ways to remove him, maybe they wouldn’t be in such sorry shape going into 2020.

Just throwing that out there.
 
The fact that the swing voters in the Senate have already said that the Articles do not rise to the level of impeachment is a fact, not an excuse.

What swing voters? Trump and Moscow own the process. They have taken the Reds over. Moscow counted the votes and found that he had a majority, so he allowed Collins to vote against the Repubs. He does not want to lose her seat. He wants to be the majority leader in 2021.
The impeachment happened. The Senate just acquiesced to Moscow's power and gave him what he wanted. Is there someone who thought this was going to be a fair and open trial?
 
You did not ask about impeachability. You asked, "What's not to like about him?"

That was what I answered.



I do. And, for the most part, I get it. (Not with this guy.)



That is your right...as of now. If we became a dictatorship...it might become an obligation of sorts.



Please do not think I am part of that "we."

I hope for much more...and I think we can get it. I think many of the people who in my opinion are showing almost no character, integrity, or honesty right now...can show enough elements of all those things to be of use to decent governance.

Trump is sweeping so much of that away, though.

I understand that you feel differently on this, Earl. That is part of the deal we made to agree to disagree.
Well, Frank, hope springs eternal but wish in one hand and...

I also have hope for the same things you do but my expectations, based on current observations, are low.

As Chipper Jones says, it is what it is.

Chipper would have made a great president. He played the game with honor and integrity and he never cheated with drugs and had there been a higher league than the Major Leagues, he would have been one of the very few in it.
 
Is there someone who thought this was going to be a fair and open trial?

No but we had to play it out to force them to register their votes in favor of a sham.

We got as much as could be gotten again this evil administration.

Impeachment, recordation of the sham trial and now are set up as best we can to run against the patent corruption of the executive and the senate.

The entire Republican party is an unAmerican RICO scheme now, it can fairly be argued. Letting off a patently guilty Potus from election fraud, corruption,
and the Senate co-conspirators sealing it off. All of this is a simple message. Smart guys can translate it into the consumable political messaging pellets.

We are going to bury this loser in November and grab us some senate.
 
What swing voters? Trump and Moscow own the process. They have taken the Reds over. Moscow counted the votes and found that he had a majority, so he allowed Collins to vote against the Repubs. He does not want to lose her seat. He wants to be the majority leader in 2021.
The impeachment happened. The Senate just acquiesced to Moscow's power and gave him what he wanted. Is there someone who thought this was going to be a fair and open trial?
Yawn.

Exoneration pens.

Perhaps an offer to buy the impeachment pens...at ten cents on the dollar.
 
There is a case being prepared to null and void the impeachment and remove it from all government records due to the unconstitutional vote by the House committee, not the entire House to begin an impeachment inquiry.
 
Hello Darth,

Now you get it lol.

If Democrats had just resigned themselves to the fact that they would have to vote Trump out of office, instead of contriving ways to remove him, maybe they wouldn’t be in such sorry shape going into 2020.

Just throwing that out there.

Well I'm glad there is a perception that Democrats are in 'sorry shape.' No need for Trump fans to even bother voting. He couldn't possibly lose with Democrats in 'such sorry shape.' Besides, you've got Putin on your side.
 
Hello Darth,



Well I'm glad there is a perception that Democrats are in 'sorry shape.' No need for Trump fans to even bother voting. He couldn't possibly lose with Democrats in 'such sorry shape.' Besides, you've got Putin on your side.

You haven’t been paying attention lol?

The Democrat establishment is trying to torpedo Bernie, again. Why? Because the field of democrat nominees is so weak *an actual socialist* may actually get the nomination. I’m not prone to making predictions but if it’s Trump vs Bernie I may be tempted to make one.

Joe Biden is a lousy candidate. How many failed runs for president has he made? He’s old. He’s white. He’s got ‘establishment’ tattooed on his forehead. He can’t remember which city he is in half the time. Literally.

The Democrats are a mess right now. You can either accept that or continue with your delusions.
 
They were not holding a trial, they were collecting information before a trial so there was no defense at that point.

If you listened to anything this past week, you'd stop saying that trump's side wasn't allowed to call witnesses.

It's the sole job of the House to hold impeachment hearings. They did some in secret and some public. They refused to allow the Senate (the defense) to present witnesses.
They ended it all by saying they had a slam dunk case to present to the Senate. The House' findings and witness quotes, audio & visual were presented to the Senate.
We've told the improperly prepared charges to pound sand.

Again...it's the sole responsibility of the House present the impeachment charges. It's the sole responsibility of the Senate to charge or dismiss or acquit after hearing
the House' evidence. They're choosing to acquit. It's done. Get over it. Move on with the Dims and the media to your newest conspiracies.
 
There is a case being prepared to null and void the impeachment and remove it from all government records due to the unconstitutional vote by the House committee, not the entire House to begin an impeachment inquiry.

That was wrong and stupid.
 
It was never supposed to be a political process. But if it is a political process, then trump can be removed for any political reason they want.
it's a political process based on hearing an underlying crime (per Constitution)
 
Oh but you were fine with the House not letting Trump call witnesses?

Spare me your fucking faux indignation

But yeah, win at any costs. We learned from you fucks. You created this mess now sit in your own shit and suck it bitch

No! Apparently you assholes learned from Putin!

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Hello Cypress,



Republicans: "That's Horrible! How Disgusting! How could you do such a terrible thing! Democrats are such reprehensible people for doing things like that."

"But now, of course, since you've already committed this horrible act, now it's perfectly acceptable and we can do exactly the same thing without doing any wrong."

"It's only bad when YOU do it. When WE do it, it is perfectly justified and we are as pure as the driven snow."

But I think we knew long ago the GOP would cover for Trump no matter what he does
 
Joe Biden is a lousy candidate. How many failed runs for president has he made? He’s old. He’s white. He’s got ‘establishment’ tattooed on his forehead. He can’t remember which city he is in half the time. Literally.

Same as Donald.

At least Biden knows whether the earth is flat or round.
Everything you just said also I applies to Donald.
 
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