A trial without witnesses is unconstitutional.

christiefan915 said:
The testimony was all negative for trump. Why didn't the Senate repubs want to cross-examine these people under oath and expose what they think were lies?
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BECAUSE THE LAMEASS "HEARSAY" TESTIMONY, WHICH HAD NOT ONE PERSON WHO WITNESSED ANYTHING THAT THEY TESITFIED TO, DID NOT REQUIRE ANYTHING MORE THAN THE SCORCHING THE DEFENSE TEAM APPLIED, TO COMPLETLY DISCREDIT IT.
 
Trump is a fake leader he only cares about making himself richer and stoking his own ego. He will never be accepted as a good person by most of society. He is an outcast. He knows he has cheated his way through life and now everybody else knows it too. He is disgusting. He does not represent America. He is a disgrace. WE need him gone asap.
 
PoliTalker said:
Trump is a fake leader he only cares about making himself richer and stoking his own ego. He will never be accepted as a good person by most of society. He is an outcast. He knows he has cheated his way through life and now everybody else knows it too. He is disgusting. He does not represent America. He is a disgrace. WE need him gone asap.
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AMERICAN IS THRIVING UNDER THE TRUMP ADM.


CHOKE ON IT.
 
Grokmaster said:
BECAUSE THE LAMEASS "HEARSAY" TESTIMONY, WHICH HAD NOT ONE PERSON WHO WITNESSED ANYTHING THAT THEY TESITFIED TO, DID NOT REQUIRE ANYTHING MORE THAN THE SCORCHING THE DEFENSE TEAM APPLIED, TO COMPLETLY DISCREDIT IT.
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Pretty lame argument, Grok. Now it's out there forever that the GOP wusses couldn't defend trump on the facts so they went after process.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Flash,

Try as Republicans might, the impeachment was not about Democrats. Democrats did their duty to the Constitution to fight corruption. The timing was not of their choosing, nor was the calling to impeach, but they bravely rose to the task and carried out their oaths. Only a minority have been calling for impeachment, and those were for other valid reasons which still remain. The impeachment was very professionally done. The Trump cult sympathizers can call it anything they want and surely will; that doesn't change that the President violated his oath and compromised the security of the USA and the integrity of our elections. He should have been removed from office. The vote to convict was bipartisan. He only escaped through the power of propaganda and twitter. If Nixon had had the same power he would have remained in office as well. If what Trump did was not impeachable nothing is. Trump is a disgrace to the office and the nation. He should own up and step down. And apologize to the nation and the world. (If he wanted to do the right thing)
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I will accept your explanation assuming you admit the Clinton impeachment was just Republicans doing their constitutional duty to convict a president guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice.

Whether an impeachment and/or conviction is bi-partisan is irrelevant. One vote does not make something bi-partisan.

He did not escape through propaganda and twitter. There was never a chance 2/3 of the Senate would vote to convict long before impeachment began.

The impeachment of Clinton and Trump resulted in the increase of the approval rating for both men.
 
christiefan915 said:
Lay out your argument that what he reported amounts to sedition. IMO you clowns think anybody who says something negative about trump or his administration is seditious or treasonous.
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HE WAS SPYING IN THE WHITE HOUSE TO TRY TO HELP OVERTHROW A DULY-ELECTED PRESIDENT, BECAUSE HE "DISAGREED" WITH HIS POLICIES....WORKING WITH BRENNAN, SCHIFF, ETC.

VINDMAN's (etal) ACTIONS ARE THE VERY DEFINITION OF SEDITION:



18 U.S. Code § 2384. Seditious conspiracy :


If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both
 
Grokmaster said:
HE WAS SPYING IN THE WHITE HOUSE TO TRY TO HELP OVERTHROW A DULY-ELECTED PRESIDENT, BECAUSE HE "DISAGREED" WITH HIS POLICIES....WORKING WITH BRENNAN, SCHIFF, ETC.

VINDMAN's (etal) ACTIONS ARE THE VERY DEFINITION OF SEDITION:



18 U.S. Code § 2384. Seditious conspiracy :


If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both
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Nothing Vindman did remotely resembled sedition or nothing Trump did remotely resembled treason.
 
Flash said:
Nothing Vindman did remotely resembled sedition or nothing Trump did remotely resembled treason.
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THEN WHAT DID OBAMA DO FOR REFUSING TO ARM UKRAINE???

VINDMAN DID EXACTLY WHAT SEDITION IS. TRIED TO UNSEAT THE POTUS, WITH NO CRIME COMMITTED.
 
Hello Flash,

Flash said:
I will accept your explanation assuming you admit the Clinton impeachment was just Republicans doing their constitutional duty to convict a president guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice.

Whether an impeachment and/or conviction is bi-partisan is irrelevant. One vote does not make something bi-partisan.

He did not escape through propaganda and twitter. There was never a chance 2/3 of the Senate would vote to convict long before impeachment began.

The impeachment of Clinton and Trump resulted in the increase of the approval rating for both men.
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I never expected you to accept my explanation anyway. It is dismaying that Trump approval rose. Republicans are effective at message-control, Trump is the master. No doubt, if he can BS his way out of serious charges like this. America is in trouble it he gets reelected. We have to get rid of Trump to fix the climate. That affects everybody.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Flash,



I never expected you to accept my explanation anyway. It is dismaying that Trump approval rose. Republicans are effective at message-control, Trump is the master. No doubt, if he can BS his way out of serious charges like this. America is in trouble it he gets reelected. We have to get rid of Trump to fix the climate. That affects everybody.
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You haven’t ”gotten rid of him” in three (3) years, Snowflake, though the loons promised that they would.

It’s time to get rid of the anarchists in Congress and in the DC swamp...one at a time.
 
Rune said:
The trial was not heard in The House SimpleFreak
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LMAO... everyone heard the nonsense from the 'witnesses'. Schiff said they proved their case with those witnesses. The dems FEAR the actual witnesses. which is why they are fighting to hard to not let them be heard.
 
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