Abortion

[AProudLefty]

If you'd look at their discussions about the whole Israel/Palestine thing, then you'd see that they both hold very different views on that subject. You'll also notice that I've been rather quiet on that subject in comparison to the both of them. That alone should be solid evidence that we are all different people.

He will say something along the lines of: "But... but... but I have not said THE SPECIFIC WORDS ______________". IOW, he rejects deductive reasoning when convenient in the same manner that you reject set theory when convenient.

That's fair. Nobody sees every single post that occurs on this forum. However, if you take a gander into pretty much any Israel/Palestine related thread, you will probably find several back and forth posts between IBD and ITN in which they are in strong disagreement with each other.

You can also dig up some accounting-related posts between IBD and myself in which we both clearly disagree about some particulars (even though we are in agreement on most aspects).

You can also dig up some posts on the subject of Christianity. IBD is a self-proclaimed atheist (not to be confused with the religious belief that God does NOT exist) while ITN and I are both self-proclaimed Christians. ITN and I do attend churches of differing denominations (there's MANY different ones out there, and some churches are even non-denominational) but as Christians we both share the same core belief that Jesus Christ exists and is precisely who he says he is.

ITN is from Washington, I'm from Wisconsin, and IBD is from Maryland (I think?).

One could go on, but I would think that this is a good bit of evidence that we are different people.

So why use the same language? Be original! Be unique!

 

[gfm7175]

You don't get to disagree without providing an example.

I strongly disagree.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Gaddammit legion

Qit jeckin offf

 

[gfm7175]

I see that your comment's gotten IBDaMann to change his avatar, must admit I find it rather funny .

I really like his current avatar. He's very creative with that sort of stuff.

Mine just stays the same old "boring" catbird. It does have some reasoning behind it, though.

1) The simplest reason is that they're my favorite bird. What they lack in appearance they more than make up for in personality.
2) I view a catbird as representative of a "conservative" similar to how I view a cowbird as representative of a "leftist". Catbirds can recognize their own eggs, so if a cowbird subsequently lays its eggs in a catbird nest (expecting the catbird to raise its young FOR it), the catbird will actually eject those foreign eggs from its nest. I view that as representative of "rejecting the socialism of leftists".
3) Catbirds are also rather good mimics. They can (quite well!) mimic the calls of other bird species. In fact, during breeding season, male catbirds will attempt to impress females with all sorts of mimicry vocalizations that they've learned over the years. The better a male is at this, the more a female will view the male as "experienced" and "resourceful" (IOW, as a good mate). As this relates to JPP and my avatar, I personally enjoy mimicking the vocalizations of leftists from time to time (poking fun at them).
4) A catbird's preferred habitat is within dense shrubs/thickets and they are generally reclusive. I find that behavior to be representative of my own behavior.

 

[IBDaMann]

I suspected that IBDaMann had been mistaken on this point,

... and you are mistaken once again. @AProudLefty finds my denouncement of Israel's genocide indistinguishable from Into the Night's "Israel, Right or Wrong" policy. He is fully aware of these positions while cackling about how we are the same person.

your response here definitely lends weight to my suspicion.

Your judgement is poor and you are routinely dishonest. I don't think anyone really cares about your suspiscions. What is undeniable is that you are completely unable to find a value-added post by @AProudLefty .

 

[AProudLefty]

... and you are mistaken once again. @AProudLefty finds my denouncement of Israel's genocide indistinguishable from Into the Night's "Israel, Right or Wrong" policy. He is fully aware of these positions while cackling about how we are the same person.

Your imagination.

Your judgement is poor and you are routinely dishonest. I don't think anyone really cares about your suspiscions. What is undeniable is that you are completely unable to find a value-added post by @AProudLefty .

That one is called irony. You have not contributed anything of value to JPP. Abortion is a contract killing? What a riot!

 

[Scott]

You can define the term "living human" however you like. Since I have been unable to find a dictionary definition for the term,

Dictionaries are not "holy"

Agreed.

Dictionaries are not... "authoritative" sources for word definitions

Disagreed.

In fact, dictionaries will often-enough contradict each other,

I suspect you don't really understand how dictionaries work. Dictionaries frequently offer -multiple- definitions for a given word. These definitions can be quite different from each other. So if one dictionary has a definition for a word that another doesn't, that's perfectly fine- I know that IBDaMann doesn't like me pointing out that definitions are just how words are used by people, but it's the truth. Different people use words differently and many times, the -same- people use the same word differently, depending on the context of where they're using it. There are limits, however. The fact that I have yet to find a dictionary that defines abortion as "killing", let alone "contract killing" or "murder" demonstrates this. These limits can be -very- useful when talking about controversial subjects, such as abortion. As I've already mentioned, "living human" is not a compound word I've found in any dictionary or encyclopedia, which can make it useful for some purposes, but pretty useless when one wants to talk about specific stages of human development.

 

[Scott]

You can define the term "living human" however you like. Since I have been unable to find a dictionary definition for the term, there isn't even a guide as to how people usually define the term.

^^ Leftist "hivemind" language. ^^
A "guide" isn't necessary.

Only if you like arguing interminably about how "living human" should be defined.

 

[Scott]

You can define the term "living human" however you like. Since I have been unable to find a dictionary definition for the term, there isn't even a guide as to how people usually define the term. But I doubt you can deny that human sperms and eggs are living and they are certainly human.

I doubt you can deny that human sperms and eggs lack a heartbeat

True, but irrelevant.

I doubt you can deny that human sperms and eggs... lack a complete set of DNA (having only 23 chromosomes instead of 46).

Regular human cells have -2- complete sets of chromosomes, thus the 46 total chromosomes in such cells. Human sperms and eggs only have a single set, thus just 23 chromosomes. Wikipedia gets the details below:
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Humans are diploid organisms, normally carrying two complete sets of chromosomes in their somatic cells: one copy of paternal and maternal chromosomes, respectively, in each of the 23 homologous pairs of chromosomes that humans normally have. This results in two homologous chromosomes within each of the 23 homologous pairs, providing a full complement of 46 chromosomes. This total number of individual chromosomes (counting all complete sets) is called the chromosome number or chromosome complement. The number of chromosomes found in a single complete set of chromosomes is called the monoploid number (x). The haploid number (n) refers to the total number of chromosomes found in a gamete (a sperm or egg cell produced by meiosis in preparation for sexual reproduction). Under normal conditions, the haploid number is exactly half the total number of chromosomes present in the organism's somatic cells, with one paternal and maternal copy in each chromosome pair. For diploid organisms, the monoploid number and haploid number are equal; in humans, both are equal to 23. When a human germ cell undergoes meiosis, the diploid 46 chromosome complement is split in half to form haploid gametes. After fusion of a male and a female gamete (each containing 1 set of 23 chromosomes) during fertilization, the resulting zygote again has the full complement of 46 chromosomes: 2 sets of 23 chromosomes.
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Source:

Ploidy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org