ABOUT THAT "SOCIALISM" THING...

Ross Dolan

Ross Dolan

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...I have a few words to say about it...from a personal perspective.

In a couple of posts recently, it has been asserted that I would not vote for a socialist for president. I have said point blank that I would...and almost certainly will this next election, because I think Bernie Sanders will be the Democratic Party nominee (Bernie is a socialist)...and I intend to vote for the Democratic Party nominee, even if they were to nominate Satan.

Trump is so bad, I now consider ANYONE to be preferable.

Hell yeah, I'd vote for a socialist...and do so proudly.

My personal political objective is to see EVERYONE have plenty of the things needed (food, clothing, shelter, education, medical care, transportation, communication)...and at least some of the things that are wanted, but not necessarily needed.

I want that to be the case BEFORE anyone has to work in order to obtain it.

I am told my many that that cannot happen under our current economic system. So...I say switch to another system, and see if it can happen under it. I certainly am willing to give socialism a chance.

Other than that, I am waiting for the weather to change so I can get away from this goddam computer a bit more...and play some golf.
 
Frank Apisa said:
...I have a few words to say about it...from a personal perspective.

In a couple of posts recently, it has been asserted that I would not vote for a socialist for president. I have said point blank that I would...and almost certainly will this next election, because I think Bernie Sanders will be the Democratic Party nominee (Bernie is a socialist)...and I intend to vote for the Democratic Party nominee, even if they were to nominate Satan.

Trump is so bad, I now consider ANYONE to be preferable.

Hell yeah, I'd vote for a socialist...and do so proudly.

My personal political objective is to see EVERYONE have plenty of the things needed (food, clothing, shelter, education, medical care, transportation, communication)...and at least some of the things that are wanted, but not necessarily needed.

I want that to be the case BEFORE anyone has to work in order to obtain it.

I am told my many that that cannot happen under our current economic system. So...I say switch to another system, and see if it can happen under it. I certainly am willing to give socialism a chance.

Other than that, I am waiting for the weather to change so I can get away from this goddam computer a bit more...and play some golf.
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In other words, you want things given to you because you're too goddamn lazy and stupid to earn them yourself. Got it.

If someone isn't willing to work to provide even the basics to him/herself, they deserve to die a horrible, lingering death.
 
Frank Apisa said:
...I have a few words to say about it...from a personal perspective.

In a couple of posts recently, it has been asserted that I would not vote for a socialist for president. I have said point blank that I would...and almost certainly will this next election, because I think Bernie Sanders will be the Democratic Party nominee (Bernie is a socialist)...and I intend to vote for the Democratic Party nominee, even if they were to nominate Satan.

Trump is so bad, I now consider ANYONE to be preferable.

Hell yeah, I'd vote for a socialist...and do so proudly.

My personal political objective is to see EVERYONE have plenty of the things needed (food, clothing, shelter, education, medical care, transportation, communication)...and at least some of the things that are wanted, but not necessarily needed.

I want that to be the case BEFORE anyone has to work in order to obtain it.

I am told my many that that cannot happen under our current economic system. So...I say switch to another system, and see if it can happen under it. I certainly am willing to give socialism a chance.

Other than that, I am waiting for the weather to change so I can get away from this goddam computer a bit more...and play some golf.
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So you are on board for the "anybody but Trump candidate"

The "socialism" rant only plays in the Fox bubble, why they pound it home in nearly all their reports, but Americans today aren't locked into the thinking of the Cold War era, especially the younger people, if we have learned anything from the last two elections, image weighs much more than ideology
 
CFM said:
In other words, you want things given to you because you're too goddamn lazy and stupid to earn them yourself. Got it.

If someone isn't willing to work to provide even the basics to him/herself, they deserve to die a horrible, lingering death.
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Didn't I mention the Fox bubble and Cold War thinking, and then it pops up right on cue
 
Frank Apisa said:
...I have a few words to say about it...from a personal perspective.

In a couple of posts recently, it has been asserted that I would not vote for a socialist for president. I have said point blank that I would...and almost certainly will this next election, because I think Bernie Sanders will be the Democratic Party nominee (Bernie is a socialist)...and I intend to vote for the Democratic Party nominee, even if they were to nominate Satan.

Trump is so bad, I now consider ANYONE to be preferable.

Hell yeah, I'd vote for a socialist...and do so proudly.

My personal political objective is to see EVERYONE have plenty of the things needed (food, clothing, shelter, education, medical care, transportation, communication)...and at least some of the things that are wanted, but not necessarily needed.

I want that to be the case BEFORE anyone has to work in order to obtain it.

I am told my many that that cannot happen under our current economic system. So...I say switch to another system, and see if it can happen under it. I certainly am willing to give socialism a chance.

Other than that, I am waiting for the weather to change so I can get away from this goddam computer a bit more...and play some golf.
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Translation

I will vote against Trump no matter what may happen to the country! My feelings are more important than the well being of the nation.


Got it Frank!
 
archives said:
So you are on board for the "anybody but Trump candidate"

The "socialism" rant only plays in the Fox bubble, why they pound it home in nearly all their reports, but Americans today aren't locked into the thinking of the Cold War era, especially the younger people, if we have learned anything from the last two elections, image weighs much more than ideology
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Not exactly sure what you are saying here, Archives, but I am saying that I personally have no problem voting for a socialist. Whether Bernie is or is not a socialist...is beyond my pay grade. He SAYS he is a socialist...and I take him at his word.

I intend to support the major party candidate running against Trump...no matter what.

I think free enterprise is an essential to a successful economy...but I have no problem whatever borrowing very freely from socialistic norms.

I doubt we will ever become a totally socialistic country, but I am positive that we would benefit greatly from allowing considerable socialistic economic integration.

Lastly, I am bored out of my fucking mind...and I thought this theme's time has come. Been thinking about a thread like this one for months...and with no golf on the horizon...why not do it now.
 
Frank Apisa said:
...I have a few words to say about it...from a personal perspective.

In a couple of posts recently, it has been asserted that I would not vote for a socialist for president. I have said point blank that I would...and almost certainly will this next election, because I think Bernie Sanders will be the Democratic Party nominee (Bernie is a socialist)...and I intend to vote for the Democratic Party nominee, even if they were to nominate Satan.

Trump is so bad, I now consider ANYONE to be preferable.

Hell yeah, I'd vote for a socialist...and do so proudly.

My personal political objective is to see EVERYONE have plenty of the things needed (food, clothing, shelter, education, medical care, transportation, communication)...and at least some of the things that are wanted, but not necessarily needed.

I want that to be the case BEFORE anyone has to work in order to obtain it.

I am told my many that that cannot happen under our current economic system. So...I say switch to another system, and see if it can happen under it. I certainly am willing to give socialism a chance.

Other than that, I am waiting for the weather to change so I can get away from this goddam computer a bit more...and play some golf.
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Yes Frank, we know you'd vote for Satan, the most horrific and evil bastard who will bring on Armageddon and destroy the world, over Trump. And you say you don't hate Trump :thinking:
 
Eagle-Eye said:
Translation

I will vote against Trump no matter what may happen to the country! My feelings are more important than the well being of the nation.


Got it Frank!
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The only thing possible that could happen with Trump gone...is for the country to be the better for it.

You cannot see that.

Okay.

The assholes who supported Hitler during the 1930's couldn't see the problem with him either.

Like...what could go wrong?
 
RB 60 said:
Yes Frank, we know you'd vote for Satan, the most horrific and evil bastard who will bring on Armageddon and destroy the world, over Trump. And you say you don't hate Trump :thinking:
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I do not hate Trump.

It is a difficult thing for conservatives, especially Trump supporting conservatives, to fathom...but it is so.
 
archives said:
So you are on board for the "anybody but Trump candidate"

The "socialism" rant only plays in the Fox bubble, why they pound it home in nearly all their reports, but Americans today aren't locked into the thinking of the Cold War era, especially the younger people, if we have learned anything from the last two elections, image weighs much more than ideology
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Another example of someone that doesn't stand FOR anything. Nothing more than whining.
 
Frank Apisa said:
I do not hate Trump.

It is a difficult thing for conservatives, especially Trump supporting conservatives, to fathom...but it is so.
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Frank, it is obvious to anyone with second grade reading skills to see you hate Trump.
 
Frank Apisa said:
The only thing possible that could happen with Trump gone...is for the country to be the better for it.

You cannot see that.

Okay.

The assholes who supported Hitler during the 1930's couldn't see the problem with him either.

Like...what could go wrong?
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So high unemployment and record numbers on food stamps is a good thing to you?
 
Frank Apisa said:
Not exactly sure what you are saying here, Archives, but I am saying that I personally have no problem voting for a socialist. Whether Bernie is or is not a socialist...is beyond my pay grade. He SAYS he is a socialist...and I take him at his word.

I intend to support the major party candidate running against Trump...no matter what.

I think free enterprise is an essential to a successful economy...but I have no problem whatever borrowing very freely from socialistic norms.

I doubt we will ever become a totally socialistic country, but I am positive that we would benefit greatly from allowing considerable socialistic economic integration.

Lastly, I am bored out of my fucking mind...and I thought this theme's time has come. Been thinking about a thread like this one for months...and with no golf on the horizon...why not do it now.
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Hopefully you'll have a heart attack while on the course.
 
Frank Apisa said:
The only thing possible that could happen with Trump gone...is for the country to be the better for it.

You cannot see that.

Okay.

The assholes who supported Hitler during the 1930's couldn't see the problem with him either.

Like...what could go wrong?
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Yea like Bernie slashing the Defense budget to pay for free college. The market crashing and a number of other things,

Yep you prove your feelings are more important than the country.
 
Frank Apisa said:
I do not hate Trump.

It is a difficult thing for conservatives, especially Trump supporting conservatives, to fathom...but it is so.
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Rightys think in terms of hate and think the left does too. How can anyone hate him? There are lots of extremely selfish people in the world. Trump was not special until he electoral colleged into the presidency. He is a small and stupid man who is in way over his head. We should retire him to his gold-painted rooms,. Rightys hate. look at the Trump rallies. They are furious and led by their Hitleresque leader. I did not hate Hitler either. He and Trump were put in by the masses who are fooled.
 
RB 60 said:
Frank, it is obvious to anyone with second grade reading skills to see you hate Trump.
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I do not hate Trump. I despise with every atom in my body...the fact that he is president of this country. But I do not hate him.

If it serves some personal purpose for you to insist that I do...keep insisting. I'll respond that you are wrong.
 
Eagle-Eye said:
Yea like Bernie slashing the Defense budget to pay for free college. The market crashing and a number of other things,

Yep you prove your feelings are more important than the country.
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To be lectured on putting country before personal feelings by someone like you...

...is like being lectured on how to keep my body slim by Chris Christie.

Hey...it does provide laughs...and I thank you for that.
 
Nordberg said:
Rightys think in terms of hate and think the left does too. How can anyone hate him? There are lots of extremely selfish people in the world. Trump was not special until he electoral colleged into the presidency. He is a small and stupid man who is in way over his head. We should retire him to his gold-painted rooms,. Rightys hate. look at the Trump rallies. They are furious and led by their Hitleresque leader. I did not hate Hitler either. He and Trump were put in by the masses who are fooled.
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Thank you, Nordberg.

We are one on this.

And it does seem that side cannot understand it.

Too bad for them.
 
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