ABRAHAM LINCOLN - THE GREAT COLONISER

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I am surprised at how many American posters on this forum have no knowledge of the history of the Civil War. So I thought I would set down some facts for the benefit of bird-brains like Guno and Tacomaman.


Before I deal with the Civil War in the US. I'd like to remind all of those American leftists on this forum who demonise the West for having established the trans-Atlantic slave trade, that slavery is a UNIVERSAL institution until its abolition essentially by the Judeo-Christian West in 1833. That was the year the British Parliament abolished slavery in most British colonies, freeing more than 800,000 enslaved Africans.


WHAT CAUSED THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR ?


The American Civil War was fought less over the moral issue of slavery than it was over the economic and political control of that system that was central to the conflict.


A key issue was states Rights. The Southern states wanted to assert their authority over the federal government, so they could abolish laws they didn't support, especially those laws interfering with the South's Right to keep slaves and take them wherever they wanted.


The South also wanted to take slaves into the Western territories, while the North was determined to keep them open to White labour alone. So, territorial expansion was another factor. Meanwhile the Republican party, who strongly opposed this territorial expansion by the South were gaining political strength.


When Abraham Lincoln, a Republican, was elected President in 1860, it sealed the deal. He was elected without a single Southern electoral vote, and the South knew they had lost all influence. The perception that they had been excluded from the political system, led them to turn to the only alternative that they felt remained to them: succession, a political decision that led to war.


ABRAHAM LINCOLN - THE GREAT EMANCIPATOR WHO BECAME THE GREAT COLONISER


Throughout his lifetime Lincoln argued that slavery was a moral evil. I would trace this belief back to the work of the great English Enlightenment philosopher, John Locke. Locke was a Natural Law theorist, he believed that God (Biblical) had ordained an objective Natural Law - a body of unchanging moral principles that was a basis for all human conduct. He believed that human were able to discern some of the moral principles of Natural Law by using their God-given capacity to reason (i.e; to use their intelligence/rational faculties) Some examples of Natural law are: do not kill, do not enslave and do not steal. It is always and everywhere morally wrong to do these things.

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Lincoln was for colonization at one time.

So was Jefferson.

They were towering historical figures, and their reputations just walk the OP right into the dust of history.
 
I am surprised at how many American posters on this forum have no knowledge of the history of the Civil War. So I thought I would set down some facts for the benefit people like Guno and Tacomaman.


Before I deal with the Civil War in the US. I'd like to remind all of those American leftists who demonise the West for having established the trans-Atlantic slave trade, that slavery is a UNIVERSAL institution until its abolition essentially by the Judeo-Christian West in 1833. That was the year the British Parliament abolished slavery in most British colonies, freeing more than 800,000 enslaved Africans.


WHAT CAUSED THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR ?


The American Civil War was fought less over the moral issue of slavery than it was over the economic and political control of that system that was central to the conflict.


A key issue was states Rights. The Southern states wanted to assert their authority over the federal government, so they could abolish laws they didn't support, especially those laws interfering with the South's Right to keep slaves and take them wherever they wanted.


The South also wanted to take slaves into the Western territories, while the North was determined to keep them open to White labour alone. So, territorial expansion was another factor. Meanwhile the Republican party, who strongly opposed this territorial expansion by the South were gaining political strength.


When Abraham Lincoln, a Republican, was elected President in 1860, it sealed the deal. He was elected without a single Southern electoral vote, and the South knew they had lost all influence. The perception that they had been excluded from the political system, led them to turn to the only alternative that they felt remained to them: succession, a political decision that led to war.

(TO BE CONTINUED


Since you're new I guess your assumptions can be forgiven...... There have been many threads here on the topic........ You're enlightenment is a bit late but hopefully a few will get a laugh or cry out of it...........hats-off-salute-smiley-emoticon.gif
 
I am surprised at how many American posters on this forum have no knowledge of the history of the Civil War. So I thought I would set down some facts for the benefit people like Guno and Tacomaman.


Before I deal with the Civil War in the US. I'd like to remind all of those American leftists who demonise the West for having established the trans-Atlantic slave trade, that slavery is a UNIVERSAL institution until its abolition essentially by the Judeo-Christian West in 1833. That was the year the British Parliament abolished slavery in most British colonies, freeing more than 800,000 enslaved Africans.


WHAT CAUSED THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR ?


The American Civil War was fought less over the moral issue of slavery than it was over the economic and political control of that system that was central to the conflict.


A key issue was states Rights. The Southern states wanted to assert their authority over the federal government, so they could abolish laws they didn't support, especially those laws interfering with the South's Right to keep slaves and take them wherever they wanted.


The South also wanted to take slaves into the Western territories, while the North was determined to keep them open to White labour alone. So, territorial expansion was another factor. Meanwhile the Republican party, who strongly opposed this territorial expansion by the South were gaining political strength.


When Abraham Lincoln, a Republican, was elected President in 1860, it sealed the deal. He was elected without a single Southern electoral vote, and the South knew they had lost all influence. The perception that they had been excluded from the political system, led them to turn to the only alternative that they felt remained to them: succession, a political decision that led to war.

(TO BE CONTINUED


Slavery was a universal institution, but it wasn't until the transAtalnatic slave trade that it was primarily done for pure profit as its end goal

And nothing personal, but the narrative of the Civil War you offered isn't anything different, few if any believe it was fought specifically over slavery, and the Confederacy did have an option other than succession, not succeeding
 
Before I deal with the Civil War in the US. I'd like to remind all of those American leftists who demonise the West for having established the trans-Atlantic slave trade, that slavery is a UNIVERSAL institution until its abolition essentially by the Judeo-Christian West in 1833.

The Confederacy banned the trans-Atlantic slave trade. The Confederacy, not Lincoln.
 
I am surprised at how many American posters on this forum have no knowledge of the history of the Civil War. So I thought I would set down some facts for the benefit people like Guno and Tacomaman.


Before I deal with the Civil War in the US. I'd like to remind all of those American leftists who demonise the West for having established the trans-Atlantic slave trade, that slavery is a UNIVERSAL institution until its abolition essentially by the Judeo-Christian West in 1833. That was the year the British Parliament abolished slavery in most British colonies, freeing more than 800,000 enslaved Africans.


WHAT CAUSED THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR ?


The American Civil War was fought less over the moral issue of slavery than it was over the economic and political control of that system that was central to the conflict.


A key issue was states Rights. The Southern states wanted to assert their authority over the federal government, so they could abolish laws they didn't support, especially those laws interfering with the South's Right to keep slaves and take them wherever they wanted.


The South also wanted to take slaves into the Western territories, while the North was determined to keep them open to White labour alone. So, territorial expansion was another factor. Meanwhile the Republican party, who strongly opposed this territorial expansion by the South were gaining political strength.


When Abraham Lincoln, a Republican, was elected President in 1860, it sealed the deal. He was elected without a single Southern electoral vote, and the South knew they had lost all influence. The perception that they had been excluded from the political system, led them to turn to the only alternative that they felt remained to them: succession, a political decision that led to war.

(TO BE CONTINUED


The South lost all honor for all time.
By taking part in a national election and rejecting the results of the election.
The Sowed the wind and reaped the whirlwind
 
Slavery was a universal institution, but it wasn't until the transAtalnatic slave trade that it was primarily done for pure profit as its end goal

And nothing personal, but the narrative of the Civil War you offered isn't anything different, few if any believe it was fought specifically over slavery, and the Confederacy did have an option other than succession, not succeeding

If the Southern States had petitioned Congress and legally followed the steps to legal succession,I could have supported that.
But they chose treason.
 
Poor Bobb......

For a change lets talk about the good folks in Italy- Venetian and Genoese slave traders selling Slavic slaves to Muslims?? Some of which were Orthodox Christians...
 
Britain banned the trans-Atlantic slave trade in 1807, and put a lot of effort into suppressing it. It gave them something to do when they weren't fighting the French.

Brazil outlawed slavery in 1888, they took the most Black slaves from Africa in the Atlantic Slave Trade.

But, we rarely hear about this, I guess because Brazilians aren't lily White Northern Europeans.

There's a clear smear against White people just for being White.

The larger Arab slave trade also gets left out of the History books too.
 
Brazil outlawed slavery in 1888, they took the most Black slaves from Africa in the Atlantic Slave Trade.

But, we rarely hear about this, I guess because Brazilians aren't lily White Northern Europeans.

There's a clear smear against White people just for being White.

The larger Arab slave trade also gets left out of the History books too.

This site specializes in America.
Most Americans don't know there is a world outside of America.
 
I am surprised at how many American posters on this forum have no knowledge of the history of the Civil War. So I thought I would set down some facts for the benefit of bird-brains like Guno and Tacomaman.


Before I deal with the Civil War in the US. I'd like to remind all of those American leftists on this forum who demonise the West for having established the trans-Atlantic slave trade, that slavery is a UNIVERSAL institution until its abolition essentially by the Judeo-Christian West in 1833. That was the year the British Parliament abolished slavery in most British colonies, freeing more than 800,000 enslaved Africans.


WHAT CAUSED THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR ?


The American Civil War was fought less over the moral issue of slavery than it was over the economic and political control of that system that was central to the conflict.


A key issue was states Rights. The Southern states wanted to assert their authority over the federal government, so they could abolish laws they didn't support, especially those laws interfering with the South's Right to keep slaves and take them wherever they wanted.


The South also wanted to take slaves into the Western territories, while the North was determined to keep them open to White labour alone. So, territorial expansion was another factor. Meanwhile the Republican party, who strongly opposed this territorial expansion by the South were gaining political strength.


When Abraham Lincoln, a Republican, was elected President in 1860, it sealed the deal. He was elected without a single Southern electoral vote, and the South knew they had lost all influence. The perception that they had been excluded from the political system, led them to turn to the only alternative that they felt remained to them: succession, a political decision that led to war.


ABRAHAM LINCOLN - THE GREAT EMANCIPATOR WHO BECAME THE GREAT COLONISER


Throughout his lifetime Lincoln argued that slavery was a moral evil. I would trace this belief back to the work of the great English Enlightenment philosopher, John Locke. Locke was a Natural Law theorist, he believed that God (Biblical) had ordained an objective Natural Law - a body of unchanging moral principles that was a basis for all human conduct. He believed that human were able to discern some of the moral principles of Natural Law by using their God-given capacity to reason (i.e; to use their intelligence/rational faculties) Some examples of Natural law are: do not kill, do not enslave and do not steal. It is always and everywhere morally wrong to do these things.

(TO BE CONTINUED


Since you seem to be of "average intelligence" (above the tRump supporting average intelligence level) I dont recall commenting on your Civil War "psycho-babble" rants. I am very well aware that slavery was not the root of the Civil War conflict.
Now, if you decide to try and educate somebody in the future, please start with your trumpanzee brethren and stop "Google pasting" to support your arguement. Thanks......)
 
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