Accidental Racist?

No, you're wrong. Depicting the FBI as the heroes is historically nonfactual. Depicting blacks of that era as helpless fools looking to whitey to save them, is outrageously historically nonfactual. No one needs yet another white perspective on lynching. And being historically accurate is not "appeasement".

APPLAUSE
 
No, you're wrong. Depicting the FBI as the heroes is historically nonfactual. Depicting blacks of that era as helpless fools looking to whitey to save them, is outrageously historically nonfactual. No one needs yet another white perspective on lynching. And being historically accurate is not "appeasement".

It depicted what happened more from the FBI's perspective. I don't think it made the FBI the "heroes", or showed blacks as being helpless fools; though at that time, they WERE practically helpless from a legal/establishment perspective.

Lee was a hypocrite, because his criticism was specifically about the perspective. He was saying that the filmakers had a responsibility to show the black perspective, and they absolutely do not. It's the same thing people said about his movie - and he has no such responsibility either.
 
Why is Lee "correct' about Django? Because they really did NOT use the n-word a lot during that time period?

Sure thing.


I don't think Lee's issue with Django was the use of the n-word. That was Jackie Brown. And, while people certainly used the n-word a lot circa 1997, I don't see the criticism as invalid.
 
I don't think Lee's issue with Django was the use of the n-word. That was Jackie Brown. And, while people certainly used the n-word a lot circa 1997, I don't see the criticism as invalid.

My bad - you are correct. Though, to me, his criticism of Django is surprising, considering some of the criticism he has gotten (and how he had defended himself) for "Do the Right Thing."
 
Well, I question his definition of brilliant anyway. Not a fan of Lawrence O to say the least. (I can't stand him, he is a rage monster) And actually I am not a Rachel fan though that is a very incendiary thing to say in liberal circles. I have been viciously attacked for saying that. It's pretty effed up. You can't say that you don't like Rachel Maddow. You simply cannot say it.

I stopped watching MSNBC several years ago so never even noticed this.

i like maddow.

that's weird.
 
Why is Lee "correct' about Django? Because they really did NOT use the n-word a lot during that time period?

Sure thing.

Spike said he doesn't want to see slavery reduced to a spaghetti western .. neither do I. That's his argument.

But your argument is that because they used the 'N' word then .. any movie about slavery cannot be told without using it 100,000 times? I mean surely the movie couldn't be made without using it over and over and over again. That's your argument.

If that's what you call entertainment .. you should go see it. Questioning what Lee and others think about it is kinda' silly, don't you think?

It happens that Tarentino has a fetish for the 'N' word. I'm not sure he's ever made any movie without it.
 
Spike said he doesn't want to see slavery reduced to a spaghetti western .. neither do I. That's his argument.

But your argument is that because they used the 'N' word then .. any movie about slavery cannot be told without using it 100,000 times? I mean surely the movie couldn't be made without using it over and over and over again. That's your argument.

If that's what you call entertainment .. you should go see it. Questioning what Lee and others think about it is kinda' silly, don't you think?

It happens that Tarentino has a fetish for the 'N' word. I'm not sure he's ever made any movie without it.


It would take some effort to work it into Inglorious Basterds, but it may have made it in there nontheless. I didn't see it.
 
Spike said he doesn't want to see slavery reduced to a spaghetti western .. neither do I.

But your argument is that because they used the 'N' word then .. any movie about slavery cannot be told without using it 100,000 times? I mean surely the movie couldn't be made without using it over and over and over again. That's your argument.

If that's what you call entertainment .. you should go see it. Questioning what Lee and others think about it is kinda' silly, don't you think?

It happens that Tarentino has a fetish for the 'N' word. I'm not sure he's ever made any movie without it.

If it was used over & over again back then, then why wouldn't a filmmaker portray it the same way? Should they water down that period somehow?

Do you support the efforts to remove the n-word from Huck Finn?

As for reducing it to a spaghetti western, he didn't even see the movie for starters. And beyond that, as I said, it's surprising to hear Lee of all people make that kind of comment - as though filmakers have a responsibility to anyone or anything but their own voice and what they want to make.
 
So is the point of accidental racist to deny that there is racism, or is brad admitting he and his redneck brothers ARE racist (albiet, "accidentally") because they are too stupid to know any better? I mean, to be fair, the song isn't called "I am not a racist." So as far as I see it, they are admitting to their latent racism and backwardness

The only outrage I felt was reading over those cringe inducing lyrics. I don't know if I want to subject myself to the torture of actually listening to the song.

Lastly, lol at choosing LL cool J? I mean, that just shows how out of touch those southern trailer trash clowns are. I can imagine them in a meeting figuring out who to get to do the song: "Damnit, our first choice of the Baja men fell through, who else is really hip and with it these days in rap music? LL Cool J? BRILLIANT!"
 
It would take some effort to work it into Inglorious Basterds, but it may have made it in there nontheless. I didn't see it.

I didn't watch much of it .. but the 'N' word made it's way into Reservoir Dogs even though I don't think there were any black people in it.
 
After her coded message of hate, now she goes overboard to try and prove she doesn't hate lesbians.

Next she will be telling us all about her lesbian 'friends' and how many of them she has.

Superfreak you must have taken some good drugs today because you actually made me laugh a few times, and usually you make me think a lot about rat poison.
 
So is the point of accidental racist to deny that there is racism, or is brad admitting he and his redneck brothers ARE racist (albiet, "accidentally") because they are too stupid to know any better? I mean, to be fair, the song isn't called "I am not a racist." So as far as I see it, they are admitting to their latent racism and backwardness

The only outrage I felt was reading over those cringe inducing lyrics. I don't know if I want to subject myself to the torture of actually listening to the song.

Lastly, lol at choosing LL cool J? I mean, that just shows how out of touch those southern trailer trash clowns are. I can imagine them in a meeting figuring out who to get to do the song: "Damnit, our first choice of the Baja men fell through, who else is really hip and with it these days in rap music? LL Cool J? BRILLIANT!"

:good4u:
 
Spike said he doesn't want to see slavery reduced to a spaghetti western .. neither do I. That's his argument.

It's about an ex-slave hunting down and killing white slave owners. It's awesome.


It happens that Tarentino has a fetish for the 'N' word. I'm not sure he's ever made any movie without it.

Pretty sure it wasn't used in kill bill or inglorious basterds.

Almost every one of his movies though is about "bad people" or involve gangs or criminals etc, so when you have a bunch of characters that by any definition are "bad people" you obviously are going to have them saying bad things. I don't know if I could call it a fetish for the N word, though he does use it a lot in his films. I think that may be more of a result of just the type of stories and characters he writes though, rather than some proxy fascination with the word.
 
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