Accidental Racist?

Darla said:
Some times I must get so caught up in men here mansplaining, I forget that they are just as big whitesplainers!
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I am not saying that BAC shouldn't be offended or that he shouldn't take issue with that word. That word has a vile history and I wouldn't begin to tell BAC that it shouldn't be a big deal to him or something like that.

I am just commenting on tarantino's "fetishizing" the word. I think it's a natural byproduct when you always write seedy characters. Tarantino also has extremely violent movies, where people are getting killed left and right. I don't think that means Tarantino is secretly a violent person.
 
Grind is Dead said:
did you see the movie? he was definitely the main character.
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Did you see the movie?

Will Smith on why he turned down Django Unchained: "I need to be the lead"

"Django wasn't the lead, so it was like, I need to be the lead. The other character was the lead!" Smith told Entertainment Weekly, referring to Christoph Waltz's bounty hunter Dr. King Schultz, for which he ironically won the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor. (Waltz was initially campaigned in lead along with Jamie Foxx, who played Django.)
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/21...d-down-django-unchained-i-need-to-be-the-lead
 
Lucius Cornelius Sulla said:
You can't be a "accidental racist" any more than you can be a "accidental Christian". They're systems of belief that you actively subscribe to. You can be accidentally prejudiced, or you can make a statement that is taken as racist without the intent toto be racist, but you can't accidentally be racist.
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APPLAUSE
 
Darla said:
Well actually I do like them with a little sugar! ;)
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Sidetracking,

I had a cruise crush, the most beautiful man I have ever seen. I apologized to his wife for staring at him so much, lol.

They came to the karaoke bar to hear me sing! I surprised everyone, the little, old, white women who could rock Marvin Gaye!

I had a following on the boat. I was the only one who sang on pitch, lol
 
Grind is Dead said:
I am not saying that BAC shouldn't be offended or that he shouldn't take issue with that word. That word has a vile history and I wouldn't begin to tell BAC that it shouldn't be a big deal to him or something like that.

I am just commenting on tarantino's "fetishizing" the word. I think it's a natural byproduct when you always write seedy characters. Tarantino also has extremely violent movies, where people are getting killed left and right. I don't think that means Tarantino is secretly a violent person.
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No I understand what you are saying. I was responding to Onceler who had a bit of that splaining thing going on, which I can so easily recognize on account of years of Superfreak's mansplaining.
 
BAC, they may have definitions for what "lead" means in holywood, but I am telling you that jaime fox was probably on screen the most out of any other character. He's in every scene. In the last 30 minutes of the movie, *SPOILERS* he's like the only active main character. He for all intents and purposes was the lead of the movie. I mean the movie is even named after his character.
 
Darla said:
I have always liked him, I loved Inglorious Bastards and a few others. I have not seen Kill Bill or Django Unchained. I am almost positive the n word wasn't used in Inglorious Bastards. This thread has made me feel as if I want to go back and rewatch a few of his films and check this out.
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Knowing Tarentino .. I wouldn't count it out that he somehow managed to slip into Bastards.

I don't think it made it into Kill Bill .. which I liked.
 
Rana said:
Sidetracking,

I had a cruise crush, the most beautiful man I have ever seen. I apologized to his wife for staring at him so much, lol.

They came to the karaoke bar to hear me sing! I surprised everyone, the little, old, white women who could rock Marvin Gaye!

I had a following on the boat. I was the only one who sang on pitch, lol
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I would love to hear you sing, I hope you come to NY and then we'll go to a karaoke bar.
 
Rana said:
Sidetracking,

I had a cruise crush, the most beautiful man I have ever seen. I apologized to his wife for staring at him so much, lol.

They came to the karaoke bar to hear me sing! I surprised everyone, the little, old, white women who could rock Marvin Gaye!

I had a following on the boat. I was the only one who sang on pitch, lol
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I can't even tell you what I would give to get an audio recording of that. That sounds so fucking awesome.
 
darla what's your karaoke song of choice and how many drinks do you need to be in to do it?

I've never done karaoke, but if I did, it would probably be some nostalgic song that my generation would identify with, and it would take me easily 8-10 drinks + before I would consider doing it.
 
Grind is Dead said:
I can't even tell you what I would give to get an audio recording of that. That sounds so fucking awesome.
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I just have fun. I sang with the band one night, I wanted to do, " I Got You Babe" as a joke for my girlfriends because I despise Cher, and they all love her, but the band ask me to sing "Black Velvet" instead, the band wanted to play it. It was hilarious.
 
Grind is Dead said:
BAC, they may have definitions for what "lead" means in holywood, but I am telling you that jaime fox was probably on screen the most out of any other character. He's in every scene. In the last 30 minutes of the movie, *SPOILERS* he's like the only active main character. He for all intents and purposes was the lead of the movie. I mean the movie is even named after his character.
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Obviously it's what Smith thinks as well .. who was intended for the role.

It's also what many I know who have seen the movie have also said.

It's about interpretation .. yours included.

The title is often meaningless.

The Cotton Club .. starring Richard Gere

Put this in goggle .. 'Mississippi Burning cast' .. look who the stars are.

I could go on ..
 
Darla said:
I have always liked him, I loved Inglorious Bastards and a few others. I have not seen Kill Bill or Django Unchained. I am almost positive the n word wasn't used in Inglorious Bastards. This thread has made me feel as if I want to go back and rewatch a few of his films and check this out.
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Tarantino is an idiot.
 
I guess it's mostly just me, but I don't like any of this kind of overanalyzing when it comes to songs & movies.

We need to let artists be artists, and just do what they do. If I wanted to be a fear-monger, I could extrapolate out a future where the pc'ers win, and the n-word is removed from Twain's books, and Do the Right Thing ends with Sal & Radio Raheem shaking hands and enjoying a slice together.

Once you start sanitizing anything artistic, or telling those who create it that they have to do it a certain way, or show this perspective also, or leave out the bad words - it's diminished, in a big way.

Just my 2 cents. I'd call this "artsplaining", I suppose...
 
Grind is Dead said:
darla what's your karaoke song of choice and how many drinks do you need to be in to do it?

I've never done karaoke, but if I did, it would probably be some nostalgic song that my generation would identify with, and it would take me easily 8-10 drinks + before I would consider doing it.
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Grind I am a woman of many talents, but one thing I know for sure is that singing isn't one of them. I don't do Karaoke. One time my cousin and i went to Cape Cod for Memorial Day weekend. And we did a recording of, okay, this is beyond gay, Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy. LMAO We were smashed. We were so drunk we freaking paid to have it recorded. We did a duet. I don't thnk I've ever told anyone about that. It actually came out pretty good which was the most shocking thing.

I'd say I'd have to be pretty blasted and also probably I'd have to be high. I don't think I get drunk enough to pull something like that, but weed would do it because that always loosens me up and makes me feel uninhibited.
 
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Grind is Dead said:
darla what's your karaoke song of choice and how many drinks do you need to be in to do it?

I've never done karaoke, but if I did, it would probably be some nostalgic song that my generation would identify with, and it would take me easily 8-10 drinks + before I would consider doing it.
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Drops of Jupiter!
 
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