Activist Judge strikes down new Healthcare Law!

SSI and Medicare are a couple of government programs that I think are good. Most people that I know have gotten more back from each one than they have ever paid in....and most of them needed it. I'll guarantee you that the folks in my community who are drawing it now are glad thier checks were garnished (taxed) back in the 60's and 70's when they were catching chickens to support thier families. If it weren's for SSI, they'd have no retirement at all...then what are we going to do with them? Let them starve? Let them sleep in a cardboard box? SSI is one tax that I do not mind paying. I might like a little more freedom to invest that money but if I don't get that freedom I am still not going to oppose SSI....because many are trying to survive and wouldn't ever invest in retirement for themselves.
 
Chapdog said:
Dont know how it will be judged but its not the only good/service that has tax implications associated with it. I pay less tax by buying a new sliding glass door this year. I would pay less tax buy purchasing health insurance in this plan.
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you get a tax break for buying something, did you incur a penalty for not buying it?
 
The judge is only one of three who ruled on it, and the others upheld the law.

Hudson's not a partisan, oh, no.</sarcasm>

"Judge Hudson is the third district court judge to reach a determination on the merits in one of the two dozen lawsuits filed against the health care law. The others — in Detroit and Lynchburg, Va. — have upheld the law. Lawyers on both sides said the appellate process could last another two years before the Supreme Court settles the dispute.

The opinion by Judge Hudson, who has a long history in Republican politics in northern Virginia, continued a partisan pattern in the health care cases. Thus far, judges appointed by Republican presidents have ruled consistently against the Obama administration while Democratic appointees have found for it."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/14/health/policy/14health.html?_r=1&hp
 
SmarterThanYou said:
you get a tax break for buying something, did you incur a penalty for not buying it?
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I get a penalty of not getting the tax break if I dont take advantage of it. In my mind its the same thing. if makes you feel better they can raise everyone's taxes then say ok if you get health insurance you get a tax break.
 
Chapdog said:
I get a penalty of not getting the tax break if I dont take advantage of it. In my mind its the same thing. if makes you feel better they can raise everyone's taxes then say ok if you get health insurance you get a tax break.
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i dare them to try that. how much would tax rates have to go up to pay for the health monstrosity?
 
btw....activist judge...doesn't apply to striking down an unconstutitional law, as far as i know, the term is derived from judges creating law
 
"An individual's personal decision to purchase -- or decline purchase -- (of) health insurance from a private provider is beyond the historical reach of the U.S. Constitution," Hudson wrote. "No specifically constitutional authority exists to mandate the purchase of health insurance."
 
CanadianKid said:
I hear all the time how conservative apologists rail against activist judges...making laws....


Ok so what say you now? This is clearly judicial activism.... Do you condemn it or do you let it slide?

Come on conservatives...Lets see how hypocritical you really are!

CK
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how do you consider this judicial activism.....he didn't make a law, he found a law made by the legislature to violate the constitution......
 
Hudson said that neither the Supreme Court nor the various appeals courts had ever extended the "Commerce Clause powers to compel an individual to involuntarily enter the stream of commerce by purchasing a commodity in the private market."

"This dispute is not simply about regulating the business of insurance — or crafting a scheme of universal health insurance coverage — it's about an individual's right to choose to participate,"
 
I hate when Judges substitute the action of elected officials with there own radical political adgenda!
 
Ok here is the point I think CK was trying to make. Whenever Right Wing legislatures pass a law and the court overturns it, they are activists, whenever a left wing legislature passes a law and it it gets overturned then the judge is NOT an activist. What up with that Righties?
 
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