Alabama cops tackle, arrest black woman in Waffle House over ‘the f-bomb’

[Sirthinksalot]

therein lies the problem, but again, I prefer professionalism......when one lets government get away with a little law breaking, all law breaks down.

I don't support excessive force being used by police, or excusing illegal actions by them either. In this particular case, it appears that the woman who got arrested was in the wrong and brought it on herself with her actions.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I don't support excessive force being used by police, or excusing illegal actions by them either. In this particular case, it appears that the woman who got arrested was in the wrong and brought it on herself with her actions.

and by blaming the civilian, you are indeed endorsing excessive force implicitly.

 

[Sirthinksalot]

and by blaming the civilian, you are indeed endorsing excessive force implicitly.

So she wasn't at fault?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

read my other posts before you consider failure.

Then educate us and explain what should have happened, when:
Question 1 - The management asked her to leave and she didn't?
Answer 1 - _____________________________________________

Question 2 - The Officers told her to leave and she didn't?
Answer 2 - ________________________________________

Question 3 - The Officers told her to put her hands behind her back and she didn't?
Answer 3 - __________________________________________________

Question 4 - When she physically resisted having her hands put behind her back?
Answer 4 - ______________________________________________

 

[USFREEDOM911]

as i've stated previously, though I think you've been in agreement with others, that the people need babysitters and are no longer capable of governing ourselves........is that right?

I never said a word about people needing baby sitters.

What I've said is that when someone refuses to be in control of themselves, then they allow someone else to take control of the situation.

How about people start acting like they have control of their behavior.

 

[Evmetro]

here is your police state.

Better than being dead. The cop in the specific hypothetical situation I described would not do well in court, and I would be alive to get my settlement.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Then educate us and explain what should have happened, when:
Question 1 - The management asked her to leave and she didn't?
Answer 1 - _____________________________________________

Question 2 - The Officers told her to leave and she didn't?
Answer 2 - ________________________________________

Question 3 - The Officers told her to put her hands behind her back and she didn't?
Answer 3 - __________________________________________________

Question 4 - When she physically resisted having her hands put behind her back?
Answer 4 - ______________________________________________

again, there is a use of force doctrine that defines the appropriate levels of force for police to use. my problem is with people, like yourself, that allow law enforcement to violate that, just a little, because you believe people need to be taught a lesson.

what I wonder is WHY do you tell civilians that the fight should be in the courts, not the stree, but let police do the fight in the street and not the courts? could it be because you're a cowardly mother fucker who needs big brother to open cans of whoop ass to make YOU feel safe?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

There, I agree with you, threatening to break her arm was excessive. However, a lot of stuff is technically allowable for an arresting officer.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_compliance

Looks like the threat of releasing the Police Dog, if they don't follow directions, is excessive.

 

[CFM]

therein lies the problem, but again, I prefer professionalism......when one lets government get away with a little law breaking, all law breaks down.

You mean like you driving without a license despite the law requiring you have one. What will you do next?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I never said a word about people needing baby sitters.

What I've said is that when someone refuses to be in control of themselves, then they allow someone else to take control of the situation.

How about people start acting like they have control of their behavior.

sure. maybe like these badge wearing idiots?

or is this going to be another one of your 'fight it in the courts' bullshit?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

eh, maybe. i'm more about the professionalism.......why does a full grown man need to threaten a smaller woman about breaking her arm when he has two people as backup. but don't mind me, i've only been a professional most of my life.

Then start acting professional and stay with the facts of the situation.
Was her ass beaten?
You would rather he did break her arm, instead of making the comment?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Better than being dead. The cop in the specific hypothetical situation I described would not do well in court, and I would be alive to get my settlement.

bow down to uncle sam, slave.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

so how does one make the distinction when you're told 'just do what they say, fight it in court'? that is a fact of the issue.

That apparently isn't the FACTS, in this situation.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Then start acting professional and stay with the facts of the situation.
Was her ass beaten?
You would rather he did break her arm, instead of making the comment?

i'd rather he be a professional, period. we the people give that badged individual an awful lot of power. the least he could do is wield it with professionalism.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

That apparently isn't the FACTS, in this situation.

so it's a question you don't want to deal with.....or, is this something that should be made a separate thread that you can ignore?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

so you aren't a fan of professionalism, you just want a mercenary force. understood.

Never said that; but you've proven that you'll jump to any conclusion, in order to appear correct.

How about people start acting like adults?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

You mean like you driving without a license despite the law requiring you have one. What will you do next?

continue to be free, unlike yourself.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

again, you seem to not give a damn about professionalism. it's why you and cops are largely disrespected.

I see you're completely ignoring her behavior.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

and by blaming the civilian, you are indeed endorsing excessive force implicitly.

And just consider what the outcome could have been, if she had acted responsibly.

 

[CFM]

continue to be free, unlike yourself.

In other words, the rules are only for other people not you. Hypocrite.