Sammy Jankis
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You said you're not a christian. What are you?
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You said you're not a christian. What are you?
Sammy Jankis
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Dixie said:
Dixie is a spiritualist who believes in one god, and observing the Sabbath. Dixie is a noahide.
blackascoal
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NEWSFLASH: America has ALWAYS been a violent nation.
In fact, we've become less violent, more humane, and more GODLY the further we move away from GOD.
We no longer enslave entire an entire population of Americans.
We no longer commit acts of genocide on a different population of Americans.
We no longer believe that women should be subservient to men.
We no longer believe that homosexuals are evil.
We no longer believe in the law of the six-gun or want any return to the Wild West.
The good news is that christianity, both protesant and evangelical, is rapidly shrinking in America.
The better news is that during this last campaign season Americans were not burdened with what Ralph Reed or so-called "christian conservatives" had to say. Nobody gave a fuck what they had to say. Both are maginalized today.
One day this biblical God that condoned slavery and murder will be read of in the same pages that talks about other false gods .. like Zeus, Apollo, and Thor.
That's the good news.
In fact, we've become less violent, more humane, and more GODLY the further we move away from GOD.
We no longer enslave entire an entire population of Americans.
We no longer commit acts of genocide on a different population of Americans.
We no longer believe that women should be subservient to men.
We no longer believe that homosexuals are evil.
We no longer believe in the law of the six-gun or want any return to the Wild West.
The good news is that christianity, both protesant and evangelical, is rapidly shrinking in America.
The better news is that during this last campaign season Americans were not burdened with what Ralph Reed or so-called "christian conservatives" had to say. Nobody gave a fuck what they had to say. Both are maginalized today.
One day this biblical God that condoned slavery and murder will be read of in the same pages that talks about other false gods .. like Zeus, Apollo, and Thor.
That's the good news.
blackascoal
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Spititualists don't require religion, don't do doctrine, don't necessarily believe in God.
That is not you.
I'll bet this clown in the Alabama shootings believed in God and called himself a christian.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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I believe in RESPECTING the Sabbath. I believe in RESPECTING the religious beliefs and customs of others in my community. I am not a Christian, I am not a Jew. I do not belong to, nor do I subscribe to, any organized religion. I know a spiritual God, which is not a male or female entity, doesn't float on a cloud, doesn't have a long white beard or Charlton Heston voice, and doesn't look like George Burns. I don't "believe" in a God, I know He exists just as you know your mother exists.
The Bible is a wonderful book, Jesus was a great teacher and philosopher. I respect the Book, and I respect what Jesus had to say. I also respect the teachings of Hinduism and Buddhism, and think they bring positiveness to the world. I think that "God" transcends human religious beliefs, and is out of the realm of comprehension for mortal men. Religion is the result of mankind attempting to define and understand God, but it most often fails to come close.
If I had to try and define God to you, in some physical way in which you could relate and understand, it would be an energy source coursing through our universe. It's omnipresent, and omnipotent. It will ultimately determine your fate in an afterlife, which involves a complex range of heaven's and hells. I don't know or understand how that all works, but I do understand my role here in this physical realm.
I define my faith as a Spiritualist, because that best describes it.
Sammy Jankis
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No you don't. You want the sabbath forced onto people by law.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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You don't know what I believe, you are a blind man. You read my comments, and draw conclusions, and most of the time, you draw the wrong conclusions. You are lost, and will continue to wander in the dark, because you've never witnessed the light. I can't help you, and I won't try. You speak from sheer ignorance, and would do yourself well to not presume to know things you don't understand.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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I never said that. You are free to observe the Sabbath if you like. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. I have found, it doesn't kill me to do it, and it doesn't kill me to not do it, but to each his own.
We were discussing the law, and how democracies and communities determine the law. In that regard, if my community doesn't want to sell beer on the Sabbath, I can respect that, I have no problem with it. That doesn't force you to observe the Sabbath, and you can buy beer all day Saturday, and drink it all day Sunday, no one will stop you.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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What's really funny is, slavery, the "wild west" and most everything you mentioned, was fiercely opposed by religious (mostly Christian) groups. It was religious people who operated the Underground Railroad, it was religious people who brought civility to the "wild west" of old. The overwhelming and vast majority of black people are strong evangelicals, who have profound faith in God. Martin Luther King Jr. was a Baptist minister. Most all of the civil rights leaders were ordained ministers of God.
Again, you speak from sheer ignorance.
blackascoal
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"the dark" and "the light" .. more snake-oil bullshit from someone who has been wrong about every fucking thing you're said here.
Wrong about Bush
Wrong about the war
Wrong about the economy
Wrong about the election
Wrong about every damn thing you've said.
Why doesn't God you keep you better informed?
I'm spiritual, you are a religious nutcase .. which is no secret around here.
Spiritualists don't push their beliefs on anyone because they recognize that everyone is not connected to spirituality.
You'd do better concentrating on things you can control .. and what I have to say is not one of those things.
Sammy Jankis
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But on sunday they will stop you, you stupid cunt.
Sammy Jankis
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Dixie, what meaning does SABBATH have in your "spiritual" view. THat's a jew idea.
Sammy Jankis
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Dixie, the god of Abraham hates you for denying you believe in HIM.
blackascoal
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Leviticus 25:44: You may take your slaves from the heathen nations around you .. and you may will them to your children like cattle.
The words of God.
Slavery existed in America for 264 years and it was not religious people who brought it to its end .. it was the American government.
The Underground Railroad .. which I have travelled .. was a disconnected system of secret routes established by ABOLITIONISTS, who were not all religious people.
Here's something ELSE you don't know .. the lyrics to "The Underground Railroad" ..
The Underground Train,
Strange as it seems,
Carried many passengers
And never was seen
It wasn’t made of wood,
It wasn’t made of steel;
A man-made train that
Ran without wheels.
The train was known
By many a name.
But the greatest of all
Was “The Freedom Train”
The Quakers, the Indians,
Gentiles and Jews,
Were some of the people
Who made up the crews.
Free Blacks and Christians
And Atheists, too,
Were the rest of the people
Who made up the crews.
Conductors and agents
Led the way at night,
Guiding the train
By the North Star Light.
The passengers were
The fugitive slaves
Running from slavery
And its evil ways.
Running from the whip
And the overseer,
From the slave block
And the Auctioneer.
They didn’t want their masters
To catch them again,
So men dressed as women
And the women dressed as men
Their connection was spirituality, not religion.
You're talking to the wrong person, DIXIE, trying to teach black history to.
Religion became central to black life in America because it was the ONLY vehicle for black expression allowed for HUNDREDS OF YEARS. Part of our dysfunction has been that for far too long we remained chained to religion. Today we are plauged by preacher.pimps.
And, yes, Dr. King was a minister, but the legions of those who took up the mantle and demanded Civil Rights were not religious and if they were, many were not christians. Malcolm X was as influential a leader as Dr. King, but King is more palatable to the American public. Sort of like "Roots" .. which was a comic book version of slavery, but palatable to Americans.
The ungodly and demonic behavior that came from the south and from those who sttod behind the evil flag of DIXIE, was full of religion and God, and it took sane people to wrest their evil control of humans away from them.
You're claiming religion was the savioir from an entire nest of religious monsters.
I repeat, you're talking to the wrong person to sell your sanke oil.
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Dixie - In Memoriam
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You should attempt to educate your ignorant self.....
[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolitionism[/ame]
Abolitionism was a movement to end the slave trade and emancipate slaves in western Europe and the Americas. The slave system aroused little protest until the 18th century, when rationalist thinkers of the Enlightenment criticized it for violating the rights of man, and Quaker and other evangelical religious groups condemned it as un-Christian.
The first American movement to abolish slavery came in the spring of 1688 when German and Dutch Quakers of Mennonite descent in Germantown, Pennsylvania (now part of Philadelphia) wrote a two-page condemnation of the practice and sent it to the governing bodies of their Quaker church, the Society of Friends. Though the Quaker establishment took no immediate action, the the 1688 Germantown Quaker Petition Against Slavery, was an unusually early, clear and forceful argument against slavery and initiated the process of banning slavery in the Society of Friends (1776) and Pennsylvania (1780).
The Society for the Relief of Free Negroes Unlawfully Held in Bondage was the first American abolition society, formed 14 April 1775, in Philadelphia, primarily by Quakers who had strong religious objections to slavery. Rhode Island Quakers, associated with Moses Brown, co-founder of Brown University , and who also settled at Uxbridge, Massachusetts prior to 1770, were among the first in America to free slaves. The society ceased to operate during the Revolution and the British occupation of Philadelphia. After the Revolution, it was reorganized in 1784, with Benjamin Franklin as its first president. Benjamin Rush was another leader, as were many Quakers.
In Great Britian:
Despite the disappearance of slavery in Great Britain, slavery was a way of life in the southern colonies of America and the West Indian colonies of the British Empire.
By 1783, an anti-slavery movement was beginning among the British public. That year the first British abolitionist organisation was founded by a group of Quakers. The Quakers continued to be influential throughout the lifetime of the movement, in many ways leading the campaign. On 17 June 1783 the issue was formally brought to government by Sir Cecil Wray (Member of Parliament for Retford), who presented the Quaker petition to parliament.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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No one will stop you from drinking on Sunday. The community has a right to stop you from buying alcohol on Sunday, just like they have the right to allow you to buy alcohol on Sunday, or any other day.
In my personal view, it has no meaning. I realize it is a Jewish/Christian concept, and I respect it. I often defend Jewish and Christian concepts and ideas, it doesn't mean I subscribe to their religion. You want to connect me to them, but that's because you are attacking them and I am not.
It doesn't bother me, the God I know, doesn't hate, doesn't relate to hate, and has no need to hate. Neither do I.
Sammy Jankis
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The community has no right to stop sales for all because of the religious views of some. That's insane.
Tell us more about your god.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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The community has a right to stop pretty much anything they collectively want to, as long as it doesn't violate your Constitutional rights in doing so.
What would you like to know about my God?
Sammy Jankis
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Dixie's problem is he thinks morality must come from religion, though even nature shows us that cooperation between individuals can work to the benefit of both, thus proving the advantages of morality according the evolutionary paradigm.
Sammy Jankis
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Restricting trade for strictly religious reasons is a violation.
How big is your god's dick? What is his name?