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It's actually being the victim of a crime. It's only "beneficial" in the sense that MORE and GREATER harm is avoided. I would also add VOLUNTARY to my definition.

You discredit yourself with arguments this retarded.

No, you discredit yourself when you equate morality with mutually beneficial cooperation. Lots of things are mutually beneficial without being moral. Lots of moral things have no mutual benefit whatsoever. I gave you a few examples, I could give you a thousand more, but the point is, they are not one in the same.
 
Dixie, can thing A fit the definition of thing B without thing B fitting the definition of thing A?

Can you form coherent sentences without drooling? Can you eat your oatmeal by yourself without getting it all over you, or do you still require assistance? Have they potty-trained you yet, or do you still have to wear those diapers? So many questions.... so little time!!
 
Can you form coherent sentences without drooling? Can you eat your oatmeal by yourself without getting it all over you, or do you still require assistance? Have they potty-trained you yet, or do you still have to wear those diapers? So many questions.... so little time!!

Why are you afraid to answer this? It's a simple question.

Maybe it's because you know the correct answer shows your logic to be totally fucking bad and because giving the wrong answer makes you look even stupider than a guy who can't make a logical argument.
 
No, you discredit yourself when you equate morality with mutually beneficial cooperation. Lots of things are mutually beneficial without being moral. Lots of moral things have no mutual benefit whatsoever. I gave you a few examples, I could give you a thousand more, but the point is, they are not one in the same.

Morality is a set of attitudes and behaviors which facilitate voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial relationships. Sorry, but it's true. Society doesn't need your spiritualist hokum.
 
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Spiritual hokum doesn't hurt either. But it is interesting watching AHZ turn from total Jeebus freak Right winger to atheist fringer...
 
When a mobster extorts money from a business owner, it is a mutually beneficial arrangement... the mob gets money, the business gets protection... but is it ethical and moral? When a female school teacher has sex with her male student, it is a mutually beneficial a arrangement... but is it moral? When I fork over $1,500 per year in my annual donation to the Jimmy Hale Mission, it is not mutually beneficial to me... I could use that money to go on vacation, to buy booze and hookers, to spend on my kids, or invest... but instead, I choose to give it as charity to the homeless. They benefit from it, not me. However, I think that it qualifies as a moral thing to do, even though there is no mutual benefit.

I do stand up for decency and morality and if they happen to be espoused by Christians, that doesn't affect my opinion or position in the least. I have no idea where you get that I "defend christian theocrats" because I simply don't defend any theocrat, that I am aware of. Perhaps you can give me some examples?

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"decency and morality" .. while waving the confederate/swaztiga flag.

What a crock of bullshit.
 
Morality is a set of attitudes and behaviors which facilitate voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial relationships. Sorry, but it's true. Society doesn't need your spiritualist hokum.

Sorry, but it's false, and I proved it false. Many things are voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial, without being moral. Ever watch the show, Breaking Bad? Pretty damn good show on AMC... In any event, this chemistry teacher has cancer and is going to die, they gave him 18 months... he wants to make enough money to take care of his family after he's gone, so he has hooked up with this punk he once taught in school, and they cook crystal meth. It's a purely voluntary, cooperative, mutually beneficial relationship! However, cooking and selling crystal meth is not exactly what I call "moral" ....do you think it is???

Back to the mob example... the business owner is voluntarily cooperating, and he realizes a benefit to paying off the mob. It fits your criteria completely! It's not moral!

Morality involves something entirely different. It is the observance of standards of right versus wrong, in spite of consequence. It doesn't have to involve spiritual faith, but that does seem to help.

"No. Dixie believes in the right of the religious community to inflict whatever absurdities it desires on the community. I don't."

Now why did you have to go and lie to Damo? That's not very moral! I never said any such thing. I believe that communities have the democratic right in our society, to establish whatever standards they deem appropriate, and we have an obligation to observe those standards in a civilized society. We can protest them, we can not like them, we can lobby to change the standards to something else, we have the freedom to do that as well.
 
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"decency and morality" .. while waving the confederate/swaztiga flag.

What a crock of bullshit.

LOL... Well, I wouldn't expect a scum bucket like you to know anything about morality or decency. For your information, I display the battle flag in which my relatives (who were half black and half native american) fought and died under. I can't help that you've bought into yankee propaganda taught over the years, and see it as a symbol of something else. You've already proven your major problem in life, is ignorance.
 
Sorry, but it's false, and I proved it false. Many things are voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial, without being moral. Ever watch the show, Breaking Bad? Pretty damn good show on AMC... In any event, this chemistry teacher has cancer and is going to die, they gave him 18 months... he wants to make enough money to take care of his family after he's gone, so he has hooked up with this punk he once taught in school, and they cook crystal meth. It's a purely voluntary, cooperative, mutually beneficial relationship! However, cooking and selling crystal meth is not exactly what I call "moral" ....do you think it is???

Back to the mob example... the business owner is voluntarily cooperating, and he realizes a benefit to paying off the mob. It fits your criteria completely! It's not moral!

Morality involves something entirely different. It is the observance of standards of right versus wrong, in spite of consequence. It doesn't have to involve spiritual faith, but that does seem to help.

"No. Dixie believes in the right of the religious community to inflict whatever absurdities it desires on the community. I don't."

Now why did you have to go and lie to Damo? That's not very moral! I never said any such thing. I believe that communities have the democratic right in our society, to establish whatever standards they deem appropriate, and we have an obligation to observe those standards in a civilized society. We can protest them, we can not like them, we can lobby to change the standards to something else, we have the freedom to do that as well.


Doing meth is not beneficial. So it fails my criteria as well. Go cook up some other stupid scenario and try again.
 
Doing meth is not beneficial. So it fails my criteria as well. Go cook up some other stupid scenario and try again.

They don't do meth, they just cook it and sell it! And yes, their arrangement is mutually beneficial, cooperative, and voluntary! It fits your criteria for morality to a tee, yet what they are doing is anything BUT moral!
 
They don't do meth, they just cook it and sell it! And yes, their arrangement is mutually beneficial, cooperative, and voluntary! It fits your criteria for morality to a tee, yet what they are doing is anything BUT moral!

The third party is harmed, also leaving the activity uncovered by my definition.

Try again.
 
Why does dixie hate a rational non-spirtually religious oriented morality? Because it cannot be perverted by an authoritarian priesthood and their hidden teachings, or the Wisdom Of Their Fathers.
 
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