All Liberals Should Heed these Progressive Liberal Visionaries

TheDanold said:
Well it's there for shock value for sure, but it nevertheless highlights that the left (though most not to this extreme...yet) view humanity as a problem, with it's solution of less humans.
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Do you have anything to even indicate that mainstream liberalism is even TRENDING this way, or starting to, to backup this thinly veiled scare tactic?
 
cawacko said:
The San Francisco Chronicle has written several articles on groups of young men (in their 20's) in the Bay Area who have choosen to get their tubes tied so as to not father children and increase the world population.

If that's their belief then more power to them but I'll peace out on having that done.
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Cool, I'm counting on you to lead San Fran back into the Conservative column then man.

Did you move there for a job?
 
Onceler said:
Our existence is not a problem. Our habits and the way we treat our planet IS.

Big difference.
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You think so do you? Then why not have children and raise them to see it that way?
Instead they choose to not have children, saying they are a problem and you cheer them on.
Clearly the view is that the existence IS a problem.
 
I'm not sure what the debate is here, but I don't think having or not having children is selfish. It's two very different paths in life. I've heard arguments from both sides, obviously we have the over-population argument, and then other people say that not having children is going against why we are even here in the first place. If you ask me, having children and taking care of them for 20 years is a very unselfish act. It becomes selfish when people have children, and don't care of them. I don't buy the over-population argument, it's just plain stupid! ;)
 
TheDanold said:
You think so do you? Then why not have children and raise them to see it that way?
Instead they choose to not have children, saying they are a problem and you cheer them on.
Clearly the view is that the existence IS a problem.
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Who have I "cheered on?"

And are you using an exceedingly small % of liberals to define 'mainstream liberalism'?

Do you have problems with math? Do you understand anything about statistics?

Of course you do, because you are a colossal, gargantuan idiot.
 
TheDanold said:
Cool, I'm counting on you to lead San Fran back into the Conservative column then man.

Did you move there for a job?
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I've moved to Oakland when I was 10 and moved to San Francisco when I was 20 (I am now 35).

FWIW, Ralph Nader got more votes for President in 2000 than did George W. in San Francisco so you will not be seeing political changes here anytime soon. In fact S.F. does not have an elected Republican in the city.
 
Dano, you just got through saying that you weren't attacking the woman's conviction...that you just wanted to tell liberals to follow her example. Now you're saying that what she did is "whacked out shit"

Make up your mind, dumbass.
 
Who cares? Seriously, there are people who think humans are so harmful that we should simply choose never to breed. If they don't want to have kids there is no harm in allowing them the power to exercise their conviction.

One thing that is good. There will be no more human lives lost to her conviction.
 
Damocles said:
Who cares? Seriously, there are people who think humans are so harmful that we should simply choose never to breed. If they don't want to have kids there is no harm in allowing them the power to exercise their conviction.
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Of course, from the onset I said I welcome this and I don't consider it harmful at all. That is just Caesar and Lorax twisting my words.

Damocles said:
One thing that is good. There will be no more human lives lost to her conviction.
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I hope you're right, from my experience these "good Liberal) ideas", usually grow into government enforced ideas. Not that I can foresee government forcing sterilization but more like penalties and such for having kids (ie: China's one child policy).
 
TheDanold said:
Actually a FEW women don't want to and the Liberal men too!
Good attempt at pretending you don't care, but I can tell by your tone that this got to you because you DO find it upsetting.
It doesn't exactly bode well for the future of Liberalism....which is a good thing.
:)
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Are you really this stupid? What is the overall number of liberals that don't want kids? You actually make a generalization from this? Well then we need to watch all prolife conservatives cause they shoot doctors that work at clinics. I read about one once.
 
See this is the problem with political dialogue between liberals and conservatives especially conservative republicans and liberal dems. They find an example of something and then generalize it. And then when they are called on it they say "Dude I was only joking and trying to pull some chains." In reality, both of your houses are so stuck on moral issues that we can't get to things like revamping taxes, or SOUND foreign policy. A pox on both your houses.
 
Socrtease said:
See this is the problem with political dialogue between liberals and conservatives especially conservative republicans and liberal dems. They find an example of something and then generalize it. And then when they are called on it they say "Dude I was only joking and trying to pull some chains." In reality, both of your houses are so stuck on moral issues that we can't get to things like revamping taxes, or SOUND foreign policy. A pox on both your houses.
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Amen.
 
Dano has been pulling this shit for YEARS. He can't really debate the issues, so he tries to be a "baby Hannity", and spends much of his time posting fringe stuff, and pretending that it is mainstream.
 
Agnosticus_Caesar said:
Dano has been pulling this shit for YEARS. He can't really debate the issues, so he tries to be a "baby Hannity", and spends much of his time posting fringe stuff, and pretending that it is mainstream.
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I think of him as more of an ur-O'Really, myself. He tends to rely on bluster and intimidation as much as anything.

:cof1:
 
Watermark said:
Yeah, you know, it's great how the rats and cockroaches of the human world breed so much more than the liberals.
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Boldface is a cheap trick. Occasionally effective, but a cheap trick nonetheless.

Besides, it should be tapeworms and cockroaches, don't you think?
 
Nope.............

Socrtease said:
Wowzers Water take cover here come the flames!
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no need waterboy is akin to a WWI Jenny...'he went down in flames along time ago...he is but a pile of canvas and wood smouldering on the Valley Floor!'Take that comment for your next sentence in your new book (quote me)venture!:cof1:
 
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