All you Tea Party rebellion folks....

Onceler said:
No, intent meaning intent. He didn't "order the killing." That's ridiculous.

I think Jarod's thread question is completely out-of-line. Don't go out of your way to justify it.
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You belive its out of line, even considering those on this cite who are advocating taking up arms against the government?
 
Jarod said:
You belive its out of line, even considering those on this cite who are advocating taking up arms against the government?
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That's only a couple of posters I can think of. The question would have to be more narrowly directed at them.
 
Onceler said:
That's only a couple of posters I can think of. The question would have to be more narrowly directed at them.
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Tea party rebellon folks...

That means those tea partiers who are for rebellon.... who else whould I have addressed it to?
 
I won't answer the question because it wasn't directed at me. I gave my opinion of the question though.

Now, I'll wade in on the Waco thing. A terrible tragedy it was. How necessary all the force was I am not knowing. All I can go by is what the news reports and discussions I've had with the few relatives of mine that live in the area down there. Based solely on the evidence I have been privy to it appears to me the government was justified in going in. The question is were they justified in using the amount of force and causing the loss of human life that they did? I honestly cannot answer that as I wasn't there. I don't think anyone who wasn't there can.

But I will say this, if kooks like McVeigh used Waco (or Ruby Ridge or whatever) as a motivating factor in doing what he did then they are just plain nuts. Are there nuts in the world? You bet there are. McVeigh was one of them. There are probably more like him out there but I can see nothing that connects the sort to the Tea Party movement, no matter how much as Olberman's and Maddow's want to make that connection. Talk about using fear to get a message across.
 
Jarod said:
Tea party rebellon folks...

That means those tea partiers who are for rebellon.... who else whould I have addressed it to?
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I understand what you're saying, but I think everyone in the TEA party is for "rebellion." I guess my definition of that is looser; I think there is armed rebellion, and electoral rebellion.
 
Onceler said:
I understand what you're saying, but I think everyone in the TEA party is for "rebellion." I guess my definition of that is looser; I think there is armed rebellion, and electoral rebellion.
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That's it. I see a bunch of folks trying to influence elections across the country. That's all. Don't agree with everything they say either but I can't compare them with a McVeigh.
 
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201004190021

The words of Rush Limbaugh two months before the Murrah Building bombing

"I mean, there is a--out West--you go out to Nevada, parts of California, there is--th--the second violent American revolution is just about--I got my fingers a quarter of an inch apart--it's just about that far away because these people out there are sick and tired of a bunch of bureaucrats in Washington driving into town and telling them what they can and can't do with their land, using all of these federal regulations."
 
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Jarod said:
Do you consider Timothy McVeigh a hero for attacking the federal government?
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Why do you Commies keep trying to tie a nutbag to the tea party? No one I know of who is supportive of the tea party, thinks McVeigh is anything other than a monster, a sick twisted monster who killed innocent men, women, and children in a heinous act of cowardly terrorism.

I realize you believe you are helping to tear down support for the tea party, and that's all this is about. I get that, I understand your motives, but let me interject some psychology for you here... What you are doing, the unethical and sleazy methods you are resorting to, are going to ultimately solidify the resolve of these people. You are creating a backlash you never expected or anticipated, and in the end, it will spell defeat for you in a bigger way than if you had just kept your mouth shut. There will now be people out there voting against your candidates because they don't like being compared to Tim McVeigh... the exact OPPOSITE effect you wanted to have.
 
evince said:
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201004190021

The words of Rush Limbaugh two months before the Murrah Building bombing

"I mean, there is a--out West--you go out to Nevada, parts of California, there is--th--the second violent American revolution is just about--I got my fingers a quarter of an inch apart--it's just about that far away because these people out there are sick and tired of a bunch of bureaucrats in Washington driving into town and telling them what they can and can't do with their land, using all of these federal regulations."
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McVeigh thought he was delievering a opening slavo.

So did this last malitia group they arrested.
 
Tim McVeighs shirt talked of the tree of liberty needing to be watered with blood.

I have heard the same quote from the tea party group people.
 
Dixie said:
Why do you Commies keep trying to tie a nutbag to the tea party? No one I know of who is supportive of the tea party, thinks McVeigh is anything other than a monster, a sick twisted monster who killed innocent men, women, and children in a heinous act of cowardly terrorism.

I realize you believe you are helping to tear down support for the tea party, and that's all this is about. I get that, I understand your motives, but let me interject some psychology for you here... What you are doing, the unethical and sleazy methods you are resorting to, are going to ultimately solidify the resolve of these people. You are creating a backlash you never expected or anticipated, and in the end, it will spell defeat for you in a bigger way than if you had just kept your mouth shut. There will now be people out there voting against your candidates because they don't like being compared to Tim McVeigh... the exact OPPOSITE effect you wanted to have.
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So what seperates the rebellion you want, where you will put a bulliet in my skull, from what McVeigh tried to and did do!
 
Onceler said:
I understand what you're saying, but I think everyone in the TEA party is for "rebellion." I guess my definition of that is looser; I think there is armed rebellion, and electoral rebellion.
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So I should have said, tea bag types who are for armed rebellion... not just those for rebellion...?
 
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