Americans losing faith in elections process

Flash said:
Did you believe them?

Can you give us a link where a creditable media source claimed Trump was installed by Putin and rigged the election? I have seen the media cover others who were making that claim, but never wrote that it was true.
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No, given Trump's germaphobia, I always assumed the pee pee tape, et. al. was a hoax.



Well, you can google "Putin's puppet" or "russian collusion" with a media outlet name and plenty will come back. But here's an example ...

"With Trump has come two years of conspiracy-mongering about Russia – and at the top of the heap is none other than MSNBC’s Maddow"

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...stigation-mueller-liberal-media-rachel-maddow
 
Flash said:
An obvious lie based on the delusional belief that Trump won the election.

So, the phony Republicans who submitted forged electoral votes did not count?
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Well, ANY facts or logic by the way of evidence in court that detracts from the MAGA mantras is automatically dismissed by the Orange Cult as "fake news" ... don't cha know. :rolleyes:
 
Bigdog said:
No, given Trump's germaphobia, I always assumed the pee pee tape, et. al. was a hoax.

Well, you can google "Putin's puppet" or "russian collusion" with a media outlet name and plenty will come back. But here's an example ...

"With Trump has come two years of conspiracy-mongering about Russia – and at the top of the heap is none other than MSNBC’s Maddow"

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...stigation-mueller-liberal-media-rachel-maddow
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Agree about the pee tape and the mainstream media made a joke of that claim. Steele himself said the dossier was raw intelligence and not verified.

Rachel Maddow is not news but biased political commentary to appeal to the left just as Fox and Newsmax appeal to the right. None are reliable news sources and appeal to people wanting to hear negative stories about the other side. Very few bother to check out the validity of their claims.
 
Flash said:
Agree about the pee tape and the mainstream media made a joke of that claim. Steele himself said the dossier was raw intelligence and not verified.

Rachel Maddow is not news but biased political commentary to appeal to the left just as Fox and Newsmax appeal to the right. None are reliable news sources and appeal to people wanting to hear negative stories about the other side. Very few bother to check out the validity of their claims.
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FWIW, he twisted the "pee pee tape". Trump didn't have Putin's hookers pee on him, he had them pee on the bed he fucked them in. The very same bed Obama and Michelle had slept in when they visited Russia.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-comey-hookers-golden-showers-622604
They describe videos taken of Trump in a Moscow hotel room in 2013 together with Russian prostitutes. And not just together with them but "employing a number of prostitutes to perform a 'golden showers' [urination] show in front of him," according to the memos.

And it didn't end there. The act occurred in the presidential suite of the Ritz-Carlton Hotel, where Trump was said to be aware that the president and first lady Michelle Obama had stayed on one of their official trips to Russia. The "[perverted] conduct" was said to be a deliberate act of "defiling" the bed on which the Obamas had slept.

Any prominent person who visits Russia and doesn't believe Putin will spy on them is a fucking moron.
 
Flash said:
Agree about the pee tape and the mainstream media made a joke of that claim. Steele himself said the dossier was raw intelligence and not verified.

Rachel Maddow is not news but biased political commentary to appeal to the left just as Fox and Newsmax appeal to the right. None are reliable news sources and appeal to people wanting to hear negative stories about the other side. Very few bother to check out the validity of their claims.
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The MSM was totally serious about the pp tape and Russian Collusion, as were top Dem politicians and bureaucrats.

Which news sources did not report on Russian Collusion? The NYT, WaPo, Huffpo, AP? I'm not sure what source you are asking me about. Please clarify.




"The unravelling of The New York Times and Washington Post's Pulitzer Prize-winning stories: Durham's damning indictment of how the mainstream media lapped up tales of Trump's links to Moscow with NO credibility

Calls grow for newspapers to return Pulitzers awarded for reporting on saga

Durham report rubbished claims made by NYT article on Russian interference

It comes after America's most prestigious journalism school criticized reporting "

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...nning-stories-unravel-wake-Durham-report.html
 
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Taichiliberal said:
when black folk complained for YEARS about the various voter suppression and denial tactics in solid "red states", the various versions of "conservative" Americans scoffed, dismissed and demonized the complainers. Mind you, black folk weren't advocating to dump our voting process ... they just wanted it to be fully fair and balanced.

But since the MAGA madness of the Orange Oaf has infected the conservative, there has been a full court press via the media to impress upon all Americans that the voting process is severely compromised.

What's classic is how this attempt ignores certain facts...like how red states are implementing (or attempting to implement) all types of new rules and regulations that in effect would seriously hamper the voting tally of black and college age voters. And as history shows, the less people vote, the more the GOP gains in gov't.

And the band played on.
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Have you of the fascist left ever been able to document even a single instance of "voter suppression?" Even one?
 
Flash said:
Did you believe them?

Can you give us a link where a creditable media source claimed Trump was installed by Putin and rigged the election?
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Credible sploogy.

And no, I can't point to any credible source, only to CNN, the NY Times, Amazon.Com Post, MSNBCCP, et al.

I agree they are not even remotely credible.

I have seen the media cover others who were making that claim, but never wrote that it was true.
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Can you, or any fascist on this board provide a verified case of the "voter suppression" conspiracy theory that you float?
 
Flash said:
Agree about the pee tape and the mainstream media made a joke of that claim. Steele himself said the dossier was raw intelligence and not verified.

Rachel Maddow is not news but biased political commentary to appeal to the left just as Fox and Newsmax appeal to the right. None are reliable news sources and appeal to people wanting to hear negative stories about the other side. Very few bother to check out the validity of their claims.
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MSNBC, CNN, Voice of the Reich (NY Times), Amazon.Com Post, AP, CBS, ABC, et al. are not news, but propaganda controlled by and for the democrat party. The shit Madcow spewed to promote the RUSHING COALUSHUN conspiracy theory was fabricated by the party - the Reich. She is just one of many spokesmen from the propaganda ministry.
 
Our elections are checked every time we have one. They are extremely safe and fair. Election fraud is extremely rare.
What has changed is some people with a lot of power want to create the idea that our elections are bad. They started this campaign a while ago, and Trump seized it as a talking point. Once we have been deluded into thinking our elections are not fair, then all things evil are possible. We do not have a country anymore.
It is sad that rightys were so easy to fool.
Trump demanded recounts and he was given more than anyone ever had. They all showed the elections were fair and honest. Then he went to court over 60 times fighting the election and lost them all. Trump proved we have fair and honest elections.
The problem is low information rightys falling down the hole of lies. I guess they have been convinced America as we know it has to end. What replaces it, who knows? I guarantee it will not be better for the people.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Whether their beliefs are true or not, an increasing number, to now represent a majority of Americans, believe that elections are full of 'cheating.' Many think that election officials and others in government are ignoring claims of election fraud and even working actively to produce it.

It doesn't matter if this is true or not. The fact that a majority think and feel this way, should be a major alarm bell to politicians and government about elections. If people have no faith in the results, whether they are fair and accurate or the result of fraud and cheating, means the people have no faith in government. That is going to become a serious problem for our society.

Voters see ‘cheating’ everywhere, 54% expect it in 2024 election
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...msn&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=msn_feed
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Oh, and you act as if you don't know why?

Hilarious pontification thread!

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Uncensored2008 said:
Credible sploogy.

And no, I can't point to any credible source, only to CNN, the NY Times, Amazon.Com Post, MSNBCCP, et al.

I agree they are not even remotely credible.



Can you, or any fascist on this board provide a verified case of the "voter suppression" conspiracy theory that you float?
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I've never supported any voter suppression story. You are making unfounded assumptions. I could never find any evidence of voter suppression (especially since voter turnout was increasing), voter fraud in 2020, or creditable news source which claimed Trump colluded with Russia.

I always hear those critical of the mainstream media claiming it was not covering some story; yet, I usually just read that story in the msm. Those people claiming it was not covering certain stories also claimed they did not read the msm.

We have more information and media coverage than we can read--there is no shortage of information for those really interested.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
MSNBC, CNN, Voice of the Reich (NY Times), Amazon.Com Post, AP, CBS, ABC, et al. are not news, but propaganda controlled by and for the democrat party. The shit Madcow spewed to promote the RUSHING COALUSHUN conspiracy theory was fabricated by the party - the Reich. She is just one of many spokesmen from the propaganda ministry.
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Rachel Maddow, like Fox, NewsMax, MSNBC, FreeSpeechTV are not news sources but partisan sites for those who want somebody to tell them the evil things about the "other" party without having to read for themselves.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
when black folk complained for YEARS about the various voter suppression and denial tactics in solid "red states", the various versions of "conservative" Americans scoffed, dismissed and demonized the complainers. Mind you, black folk weren't advocating to dump our voting process ... they just wanted it to be fully fair and balanced.

But since the MAGA madness of the Orange Oaf has infected the conservative, there has been a full court press via the media to impress upon all Americans that the voting process is severely compromised.

What's classic is how this attempt ignores certain facts...like how red states are implementing (or attempting to implement) all types of new rules and regulations that in effect would seriously hamper the voting tally of black and college age voters. And as history shows, the less people vote, the more the GOP gains in gov't.

And the band played on.
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Have you of the fascist left ever been able to document even a single instance of "voter suppression?" Even one?
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First off, get your terminology right....if you're a fascist, you're not "left" or liberal. See WW2 Italy under Mussolini.

Secondly, here's JUST one example of right wing voter suppression:

Historic Win: U.S. Supreme Court Rules Alabama’s Congressional Map Violates the Voting Rights Act by Diluting Black Political Power

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases...-rights-act-by-diluting-black-political-power
 
Taichiliberal said:
First off, get your terminology right....if you're a fascist, you're not "left" or liberal. See WW2 Italy under Mussolini.
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Ohhh, big lie time - how fun.

Say sploogy, prior to forming Il Fascisti, Benito Mussolini was the leader of what?

1. The Reelect Donald Trump party
2. The Republican Party
3. The Italian Bolshevik party

Mussolini took orders directly from what foreign leader?

1. Donald Trump
2. Ronald Reagan
3. Vladimir Lenin

Which slogan was coined by Mussolini>

1. Make America Great Again
2. It's morning in America
3. The State is supreme above all else, the individual is irrelevant

I love it when you fascists start lying - it's just hilarious - the ignorance and dishonesty mixing together like that..

Secondly, here's JUST one example of right wing voter suppression:

Historic Win: U.S. Supreme Court Rules Alabama’s Congressional Map Violates the Voting Rights Act by Diluting Black Political Power

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases...-rights-act-by-diluting-black-political-power
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Jerrymandering isn't voter suppression.

Try again, but don't blatantly lie this time.
 
Flash said:
Rachel Maddow, like Fox, NewsMax, MSNBC, FreeSpeechTV are not news sources but partisan sites for those who want somebody to tell them the evil things about the "other" party without having to read for themselves.
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So what is an acceptable news source to you, Flash?
 
Flash said:
Agree about the pee tape and the mainstream media made a joke of that claim. Steele himself said the dossier was raw intelligence and not verified.

Rachel Maddow is not news but biased political commentary to appeal to the left just as Fox and Newsmax appeal to the right. None are reliable news sources and appeal to people wanting to hear negative stories about the other side. Very few bother to check out the validity of their claims.
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It was not intelligence at all. It was fiction.
 
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