America's ‘Ministry of Truth’ wasn't removed, just rebranded | RT

AProudLefty said:
Do you personally feel that I have insulted you? Why?
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I never said you personally insulted me. But when your only commentary is an insult to a person's sources and dismissing them as a "conspiracy theorist" without providing a shred of evidence their sources or beliefs aren't valid, the conversation has effectively stopped being a productive one and moved on flaming.
 
Phoenyx said:
I never said you personally insulted me. But when your only commentary is an insult to a person's sources and dismissing them as a "conspiracy theorist" without providing a shred of evidence their sources or beliefs aren't valid, the conversation has effectively stopped being a productive one and moved on flaming.
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Okay. Next time provide a valid source so we can discuss.
 
AProudLefty said:
Okay. Next time provide a valid source so we can discuss.
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There you go again, dismissing my sources without providing a shred of evidence that the claims therein aren't valid ones. You're not interested in a genuine discussion, just telling people you disagree with that they're wrong.
 
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Phoenyx said:
There you go again, dismissing my sources without providing a shred of evidence that the claims therein aren't valid ones. You're not interesting in a genuine discussion, just telling people you disagree with that they're wrong.
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they gaslight themselves to avoid cognitive dissonance with their internalized authority figure abusers.

it's so sad.

:truestory:
 
Phoenyx said:
Found an article I found quite interesting on RT that was published yesterday detailing the rebranding of the U.S.'s "Disinformation Governance Board" into the Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, or CISA for short. An excerpt from RT's article is below...

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America's ‘Ministry of Truth’ hasn't gone away: Official Washington didn't abandon its plan to ​​control social networks

Leaked documents reveal the ‘paused’ ‘Disinformation Governance Board’’ is back online

The US Department of Homeland Security is secretly ramping up its efforts to censor and suppress information it considers dangerous - in other words, it's focussed on inconvenient, but true, facts. A body originally created to defend Americans from terror is now threatening free speech everywhere online - and doing so with the active help of major tech firms.

This is all revealed in leaked documents obtained by journalists Ken Klippenstein and Lee Fang. Perhaps the most worrying papers are those that show that the highly controversial and widely condemned DHS (or “Disinformation Governance Board”) – and the serious threat it poses to free speech – hasn't gone anywhere.
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America's ‘Ministry of Truth’ hasn't gone away: Official Washington didn't abandon its plan to ​​control social networks | RT
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Can't you find a better source than Russian propaganda? Or does it read better in the original Russian?
 
Phoenyx said:
There you go again, dismissing my sources without providing a shred of evidence that the claims therein aren't valid ones. You're not interesting in a genuine discussion, just telling people you disagree with that they're wrong.
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*Sighs* I will ignore the fact that those sources are shit and will address them. First one I have noticed in the first source.

“They now think that if only the ‘media’ had told us about the laptop at the time …Trump would have won. But for the censoring of the New York Post, Trump would have won,” said Jonah Goldberg, who went on to describe the notion that the lack of coverage of the Hunter Biden scandal had any impact on the 2020 election as a “preposterous counterfactual.”

Five things wrong with that statement.

1. The Hunter's laptop story has been blaring nonstop 24/7/365 since 2020 on the media and social media.
2. As seen in point #1 above, it was NEVER censored.
3. The "scandal" had no impact on the election either way, despite the right wing organizations and the Russia would have hoped.
4. The laptop, despite them (the GOP) allegedly having access to, was never revealed nor was the content.
5. Even if the content was even 0.5% true, it has no bearing on anything.

That's just the top of my head.
 
AssHatZombie said:
do you deny cisa (Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency) exists, smarmy poopsnack?
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Did I say it didn't exist? I said "find a better source than Russian propaganda." The best propaganda contains some truths. RT is Russian propaganda that contains some truths but many exaggerations and lies. It's easier to talk about something when you don't have to wade through the lies to get to the truth.
 
Phoenyx said:
it's all about maintaining a false narrative that benefits those in power and ruthlessly supressing narratives that don't, regardless of what the truth actually is.
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When is RT going to tell its trusting public that:

(a) Russia had no good reason to start a war with Ukraine (that's called a war crime, btw)
and
(b) it's losing?

Just as soon as the Kremlin stops funding it is my guess, i.e. never.
 
AProudLefty said:
*Sighs* I will ignore the fact that those sources are shit and will address them. First one I have noticed in the first source.

“They now think that if only the ‘media’ had told us about the laptop at the time …Trump would have won. But for the censoring of the New York Post, Trump would have won,” said Jonah Goldberg, who went on to describe the notion that the lack of coverage of the Hunter Biden scandal had any impact on the 2020 election as a “preposterous counterfactual.”

Five things wrong with that statement.

1. The Hunter's laptop story has been blaring nonstop 24/7/365 since 2020 on the media and social media.
2. As seen in point #1 above, it was NEVER censored.
3. The "scandal" had no impact on the election either way, despite the right wing organizations and the Russia would have hoped.
4. The laptop, despite them (the GOP) allegedly having access to, was never revealed nor was the content.
5. Even if the content was even 0.5% true, it has no bearing on anything.

That's just the top of my head.
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it was censored and called disinformation.

is the top of your head dented in with a hammer or something?
 
Phoenyx said:
Found an article I found quite interesting on RT that was published yesterday detailing the rebranding of the U.S.'s "Disinformation Governance Board" into the Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, or CISA for short. An excerpt from RT's article is below...

**
America's ‘Ministry of Truth’ hasn't gone away: Official Washington didn't abandon its plan to ​​control social networks

Leaked documents reveal the ‘paused’ ‘Disinformation Governance Board’’ is back online

The US Department of Homeland Security is secretly ramping up its efforts to censor and suppress information it considers dangerous - in other words, it's focussed on inconvenient, but true, facts. A body originally created to defend Americans from terror is now threatening free speech everywhere online - and doing so with the active help of major tech firms.

This is all revealed in leaked documents obtained by journalists Ken Klippenstein and Lee Fang. Perhaps the most worrying papers are those that show that the highly controversial and widely condemned DHS (or “Disinformation Governance Board”) – and the serious threat it poses to free speech – hasn't gone anywhere.
**

Full article:
America's ‘Ministry of Truth’ hasn't gone away: Official Washington didn't abandon its plan to ​​control social networks | RT
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RT is the first Russian 24/7 English-language news channel which brings the Russian view on global news.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Did I say it didn't exist? I said "find a better source than Russian propaganda." The best propaganda contains some truths. RT is Russian propaganda that contains some truths but many exaggerations and lies. It's easier to talk about something when you don't have to wade through the lies to get to the truth.
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stfu, dumbass.
 
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