An Orange Cat
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Not by the end of his term.
An example of government over regulation
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An Orange Cat
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Hilarious.
An Orange Cat
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How? China doesn't pay import tariffs, importers do.
Importers are American companies, some of whom are owned by major retailers like Walmart.
This is why the economy always collapses when Conservatives are in charge; they're all fucking idiots. Every one of them.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
"it's embedded in the price. like you people keep saying.
it will become unprofitable to be an importer.
domestic production will soar." --- Lao Tse
An Orange Cat
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Since you either don't know what happened or you do and are lying about it, here's the truth:
Trump put a tariff on goods imported from China, under the stupid belief that the Chinese government was going to write a check or something.
Every single Conservative went along with this because not a single one of them knows what tariffs are and who pays them.
When the tariffs were put in place, this caused domestic importers to pass the increased tariff costs onto the distributors who pass the cost onto the retailer, who passes the cost onto you. In the case of Walmart and Target, it was direct since both those companies have their own importing business.
So you didn't tax China, you taxed American companies who then passed the costs of those taxes onto us.
An Orange Cat
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So now you're admitting that the costs of tariffs ARE in fact passed onto consumers.
Great. That only took a fucking lifetime.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
wrong.
the belief behind tariffs is that they cause American made products to be more competitive in the domestic market, thus employing more americans, keeping important capacities in the country, and keeping all that wages and infrastructure money in the domestic economy.
trickle down only works with massive tariffs.
yes. people are incented to buy American.
those american companies dealing in traitorous slave goods need to find a brand new bag.
An Orange Cat
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No, it won't. Because no matter what, it will still be cheaper to import goods from China than it would be to completely build a factory from nothing, staff it, and then make it profitable all within a, what, 3 month period? 6? 12? By that point, it just makes sense to pass the tariff cost onto consumers.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID.
And that's not even getting to the retaliation China did by not buying US crops, which forced the bailout and changed nothing.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
not with adequate tariffs.
An Orange Cat
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That is dogma.
More dogma. That isn't what happens when tariffs are put in place and it didn't even happen when Trump put them in place.
All that happened was price gouging -er, um- inflation, I mean.
Yes, Trump's tariffs are a major factor in inflation. In fact, the tariffs were driving most of the inflation that resulted in the February 2020 recession.
Trickle down has never worked. Never. Never. NEVER.
An Orange Cat
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But that's not what happened after Trump's tariffs. No manufacturing started.
IN FACT, Trump LOST 200,000 manufacturing jobs in 2019.
An Orange Cat
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The higher you increase tariffs, the worse you make your economy.
The Trade Deficit expanded every single year of Trump's term, including the last year he fucked up COVID.
Sammy Jankis
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trade deficits are meaningless.
isnt this what globalist say?
Americans haveing jobs and keeping our money in house is all that matters.
That is not entirely true, Smoot-Hawley proved tariffs don’t have that effect, and that they also close foreign markets to American productswrong.
the belief behind tariffs is that they cause American made products to be more competitive in the domestic market, thus employing more americans, keeping important capacities in the country, and keeping all that wages and infrastructure money in the domestic economy.
trickle down only works with massive tariffs.
yes. people are incented to buy American.
those american companies dealing in traitorous slave goods need to find a brand new bag.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
"it is entirely true.
there is plenty of domestic activity to keep everyone happy, unless your business model is traitorism." -- Lao Tse
Mr.Badguy
Super lefty
You're talking to someone that lives in an alternate reality. Just move on and save your energy.You're always wrong.
ALWAYS.
Everything you say is always wrong.
How is it possible to be wrong about everything all the time?
You'd think you'd at least get SOMETHING right for once, just by chance. But you can't. You just can't.
That's probably because you're a fucking moron.
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Into the Night
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It wouldn't happen anyway. The heavier the vehicle, the larger the batter has to be to move it. It's not linear.
This extra weight takes away significantly from the truck's payload capacity. Truckers won't go for it. They've got a business to run, delivering payload.
Even the Amazon delivery trucks have problems. They can only make one run before requiring recharging, and during that time they cannot deliver any more packages. So Amazon has TWO trucks per driver. He drives one while the other is charging.
EXPENSIVE!
Does it 'save the planet'? Nope. The planet doesn't need 'saving'. It's quite big enough to take care of itself.
The Church of Global Warming believes in Terraforming (describe in science fiction stories). They actually believe that a Magick Holy Gas somehow has the capability to:
* Create energy out nothing, violating the 1st law of thermodynamics.
* Trap heat, and even attempting to heat a warmer surface using a colder gas, violating the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
* Trap light, and violating the Stefan-Boltzmann law.
No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth. Make no mistake, the driving belief that EVs 'save the planet' is the Church of Global Warming and the Church of Green. Both are fundamentalist style religions that deny science, deny mathematics, deny logic, and depend on meaningless buzzwords like 'climate change', 'pollution', and 'extreme weather'.
That is one of the dumbest posts ever. Completely wrong because you have near-zero understanding of tariffs and the economy. Tariffs are paid for by consumers. TheAmericans cannot simply start making the goods here. The time line is long and costs are huge. It was American owners who moved our manufacturing abroad for low unprotected wages and no environmental regulation. Thre are over 200 countries. They will find another one that will allow them to despoil.wrong.
the belief behind tariffs is that they cause American made products to be more competitive in the domestic market, thus employing more americans, keeping important capacities in the country, and keeping all that wages and infrastructure money in the domestic economy.
trickle down only works with massive tariffs.
yes. people are incented to buy American.
those american companies dealing in traitorous slave goods need to find a brand new bag.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
We have the most under-regulated private sector in the developed world.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
no. I nailed it.
I understand tariffs and the economy perfectly. you're just a globalist brainwash victim.
only on imports.
yes we can.
and they will be compelled to obey tariffs laws.
but we only have one country to protect from dumping.