WHY do you want to punish successful people[....
What makes you think I want to punish successful people? I'm talking about rich people, not successful people. And I'm talking about taxation, not punishment.
WHY do you want to punish successful people[....
Pay your own bills
tealing someone’s money to satisfy your conscience is immoral.
That you call it a tax and use the force of gobblement coercion to do it makes it no less immoral and tyrannical
I cede nothing.
My reasoning for low taxation is a moral one. I reject your premises out of hand.
Canadians have to wait 2 years to see a cancer specialist
Doesn't sound like the utopia you envision.
Canadians have to wait 2 years to see a cancer specialist
Hold on...you said that your support about tax cuts has nothing to do with economics, which means it's all an emotionally-charged subject with you.
You're too emotional.
If you think taxation is theft, then you're an idiot.
We know...you don't like taxes but you like all the things taxes pay for.
You're a confused person.
Great, so what is the economic argument in favor of your tax cuts? Be sure to cite empirical evidence, not your personal fantasies and theories.
Right...so there's no fiscal or economic reasoning for it...just your emotion.
Smile more.
Not emotional at all Toby
I didn’t say taxes in an of themselves are immoral. There is a level of taxation that is required for a nation to run
That you call it a tax and use the force of gobblement coercion to do it makes it no less immoral and tyrannical
Let’s be clear when I speak of this issue I am referring mostly to federal income taxes.
I believe that taxing income directly in the form of an income tax is immoral. It is confiscation of personal property.
You make assumptions that “you like what taxes pay for” which is the point where you blather on about roads and cops and firefighters blah blah blah.
If the Federal government kept spending to those things specifically outlined in the original Constitution we could get by with excise taxes and tariffs to fund the federal government.
Not emotional at all Toby
I didn’t say taxes in an of themselves are immoral. There is a level of taxation that is required for a nation to run
Let’s be clear when I speak of this issue I am referring mostly to federal income taxes.
I believe that taxing income directly in the form of an income tax is immoral. It is confiscation of personal property.
You make assumptions that “you like what taxes pay for” which is the point where you blather on about roads and cops and firefighters blah blah blah.
If the Federal government kept spending to those things specifically outlined in the original Constitution we could get by with excise taxes and tariffs to fund the federal government.
As the US Constitution outlined everything else should be left to the states.
Our fundamental disagreement is that I believe in individual liberty and private property. You do not. You believe EVERYTHING belongs to the government. It is infused in everything you say
As the US Constitution outlined everything else should be left to the states.
This is a lazy argument that doesn't stand to scrutiny.
You all told us that Medicare was unconstitutional back in the day, even though it was upheld by the courts.
You all told us that Social Security was unconstitutional back in the day, even though it was upheld by the courts.
You all told us that the ACA was unconstitutional, even though it was upheld by the courts.
So your kind has been wrong about this shit for the last 80 years, so why would you start being right now?
Seems that you don't know shit about the Constitution, since you keep finding yourself on the wrong side of it.
Our fundamental disagreement is that I believe in individual liberty and private property
You believe EVERYTHING belongs to the government
Way to walk back what you said before, which was this:
So now you're flip-flopping and/or redefining the parameters because you realized halfway through your argument that your position is stupid and untenable.
MOVE. THOSE. GOALPOSTS!
You're not clarifying, you're redefining.
Much like how you redefined yourself after Bush the Dumber by stapling a teabag to your face and pretending to care about the debt.