And Biden hasn't even tried yet. Biden up by 8

cawacko said:
I've met him and spoken with briefly a handful of times of the years at various events. He was friendly as can be. Dude is outgoing and gregarious. He's also known as Slick Willie a reason. He's the ultimate politician.
Click to expand...

And slickly disappears when work is involved, apparently.
 
cawacko said:
I'm not talking about Trump nor am I defending Trump. Joe Biden is his own person and can be talked about.

Here's Brown's column from the week before:

Joe Biden’s winning strategy: Shelter in the basement and let Trump beat himself

Joe Biden’s people called to tell me that the former vice president is leading President Trump by 11 points on average in the key states of Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan.

The latest Fox News Poll finds that nationally, voters think Biden would to do a better job than Trump on health care by 17 points and on the coronavirus pandemic by nine points. Trump still has a three-point lead on the economy, the poll says.

It wasn’t intentional, but it looks like Biden’s self-quarantine in the basement of his Delaware home is paying off. I urge him to stay in the bunker.

It’s not that I worry about Biden being exposed to the coronavirus.

I worry about him being overexposed to the media, which could do some serious damage to his chances of beating Trump in November.

And that includes interviews. He should avoid them whenever possible; they inevitably seem to trip him up.

Biden is no Barack Obama or Bill Clinton. At best Biden is an Al Gore, and that type of personality does not move the needle with voters.

The only time Biden should appear in public is in small, controlled settings where he can be seen bantering with a couple of “real people.”

I often joked that Biden, or whomever the Democrats nominated, should fly off to a remote island far from the cameras, sit back and watch Trump defeat himself.

It looks like the island has come to Biden.


https://www.sfchronicle.com/politic...-winning-strategy-Shelter-in-the-15290158.php

And then you saw Brown's column, Part 2, that I posted from this past Sunday. I said dementia, maybe it's not. I don't know, but pretty clearly he isn't as sharp as he's been in the past. I don't live in an echo chamber. I don't watch Fox News and I don't read Breibart. I live in the Bay Area where much of the news I receive comes from liberals. So I read and hear what liberals say and it's along the lines of what Brown is saying. They aren't saying they won't vote for Biden and they definitely aren't saying they want Trump as President but they are commenting about his mental capacity and that he's a step slower.

As far as Biden being hidden what do you think Brown means when he says Biden should stay in the basement?
Click to expand...

I did read both of them. The one you just posted was the one hyperlinked in part two.

Now about Biden, I don't recall much about him as veep; he didn't seem to be as prominent in the O administration as cheney was during the bush years. Honestly, at the top of my head I only remember him debating Palin, and then how choked up he got when Obama awarded him the Medal of Freedom. You could probably mention some other things that would give me an "oh yeah" moment. I do not recall anybody saying Biden had dementia before this election cycle.

A month or so ago I posted an article from a speech pathologist who analyzed Biden's speech patterns and said that he uses the tricks he learned when he was trying to overcome his stutter, and it made a lot of sense. So that's another angle to consider, in addition to the fact that he's long known to be gaffe prone.

I interpret Brown's comment to mean that Biden doesn't have to lift a finger to challenge trump because trump is his own worst enemy every single day. It's trump's election to lose. What would people say if there was no coronavirus and the candidates campaigned as usual? IMO this "Biden in the basement" was a godsend to repubs because it enabled them to concoct a theory that Biden was being sequestered by his handlers for his own good, and that the real deep-down reason is that Biden is suffering from dementia. It doesn't take much for nasty rumors to get traction nowadays. Look at this forum for example. All the hard-core trump supporters truly believe Biden is a pedophile with dementia. I mean, really? I wonder how many would speak of him that way if they could be charged with libel.
 
cawacko said:
I've met him and spoken with briefly a handful of times of the years at various events. He was friendly as can be. Dude is outgoing and gregarious. He's also known as Slick Willie for a reason. He's the ultimate politician.
Click to expand...

Slicker than the other "slick Willie?"
 
christiefan915 said:
Slicker than the other "slick Willie?"
Click to expand...

Haha, good question. Willie Brown rose pretty high but getting to President is a whole other level. I think Bill has got him beat. I voted for Willie Brown for Mayor twice. I mean it was something to watch him on a daily basis. He was a good and popular Mayor but yet people also despised his 'pay for play' and other Slick Willie things. It was amazing to watch him pull it off.
 
christiefan915 said:
I did read both of them. The one you just posted was the one hyperlinked in part two.

Now about Biden, I don't recall much about him as veep; he didn't seem to be as prominent in the O administration as cheney was during the bush years. Honestly, at the top of my head I only remember him debating Palin, and then how choked up he got when Obama awarded him the Medal of Freedom. You could probably mention some other things that would give me an "oh yeah" moment. I do not recall anybody saying Biden had dementia before this election cycle.

A month or so ago I posted an article from a speech pathologist who analyzed Biden's speech patterns and said that he uses the tricks he learned when he was trying to overcome his stutter, and it made a lot of sense. So that's another angle to consider, in addition to the fact that he's long known to be gaffe prone.

I interpret Brown's comment to mean that Biden doesn't have to lift a finger to challenge trump because trump is his own worst enemy every single day. It's trump's election to lose. What would people say if there was no coronavirus and the candidates campaigned as usual? IMO this "Biden in the basement" was a godsend to repubs because it enabled them to concoct a theory that Biden was being sequestered by his handlers for his own good, and that the real deep-down reason is that Biden is suffering from dementia. It doesn't take much for nasty rumors to get traction nowadays. Look at this forum for example. All the hard-core trump supporters truly believe Biden is a pedophile with dementia. I mean, really? I wonder how many would speak of him that way if they could be charged with libel.
Click to expand...

I think Brown is pretty clear he's saying let Trump beat himself which I think is an excellent strategy as I stated. But Willie's follow up column referencing Biden's interview with Charlamagne The God was why he called Biden not ready for prime time. And the fact is Biden makes lots of gaffes when he speaks. I mean any of us would if we always had a microphone in front of us all the time so that isn't unique to Biden. But in the era of 24 hour news stations and social media everything is just magnified way more and they all make news. That's what Willie is talking about.

And Brown isn't saying he won't win the Presidency. But no candidate is perfect, everyone has faults. And as a fellow Democrat he's speaking about Biden's.
 
BartenderElite said:
Might be a good time to break out the ol' "are you better off than you were 4 years ago?" line.
Click to expand...

Did He make America Great Again? let's see, people in the streets, a near depression, the country more divided than anyone thought was possible. Unemployment at 25.. He made a real mess.
 
Nordberg said:
Did He make America Great Again? let's see, people in the streets, a near depression, the country more divided than anyone thought was possible. Unemployment at 25.. He made a real mess.
Click to expand...

Nobody has jobs, businesses are boarded up and everyone is wearing masks like fucking trench warfare! MAGA! We lead the world in disease! Thanks Trump!
 
Micawber said:
Nope, even your Orange moron understands. That's why he tried stupidly to lie about it. The fact that he didn't best his rival in popular vote, much
less achieve a majority delegitimized his entire administration. The dictionary contains the word mandate
for a reason.

More people supporting you is good. And this was true before he even had the chance to demonstrate
what a crap president he is.

He did not win the popular vote
His electoral win was tainted with Russian meddling
He has been impeached for trying to cheat in the next election
He has mismanaged Covid 19
He is bungling a series of riots.
The economy is in recession with 20 percent unemployment
He hasn't kept any promises to you except scotus nominees
He is a global joke

He is toast. You losers can't cheat enough to pull this shit off.
He is killing his own party off with Covid policy (old white working class fuckers) favoring the degenerate Missouri pool party-smash a beer on my forehead crowd.
Click to expand...

LMAO! You are going to be one sad mother fucker come November. I will be right here to LMAO at you.....;)
 
538 has Trump's disapproval gap at 11. It keeps growing. The reason Trump is so unhinged is his people told him he cannot win. Trump played the poor, poor pitiful me card. He claims he was on his way to a sure victory but Corona killed him. The fact is ,if he handled it well, it would have been a boost. But he just fucked it up like everything else he touches.
 
Nordberg said:
538 has Trump's disapproval gap at 11. It keeps growing. The reason Trump is so unhinged is his people told him he cannot win. Trump played the poor, poor pitiful me card. He claims he was on his way to a sure victory but Corona killed him. The fact is ,if he handled it well, it would have been a boost. But he just fucked it up like everything else he touches.
Click to expand...

If Trump had shown even a modicum of leadership, he could have waltzed back into the White House. This came at the exact right time for him politically. But he can't himself. He isn't a leader. He's an insecure petty little man, and a leopard cannot change his spots.
 
Concart said:
If Trump had shown even a modicum of leadership, he could have waltzed back into the White House. This came at the exact right time for him politically. But he can't himself. He isn't a leader. He's an insecure petty little man, and a leopard cannot change his spots.
Click to expand...

Disagree. No waltz. It would have been a sound defeat for him. Now, after his impeachment and the bungled virus response
it will be a beatdown. I owed you the reread, OK if he had shown any leadership, who knows.
 
It Trump finds a way to steal this election, NATO will have to repay us for D-Day, storm our shores, and liberate us.
Urban patriots on the coasts will join them and middle American militia-morons will shit their pants in real combat.

Then we can start the purge and make the Trumpanzee an extinct species. I'm all in on that.
 
Micawber said:
Disagree. No waltz. It would have been a sound defeat for him. Now, after his impeachment and the bungled virus response
it will be a beatdown. I owed you the reread, OK if he had shown any leadership, who knows.
Click to expand...

Remember how popular Bush was after 9/11. Despite his utter failure in Afghanistan, he was highly popular, because he actually sounded like a leader. If the election had been held in November of that year, he would have beaten anyone in a cakewalk. Trump could have done the same, but the tale of the scorpion and the frog is applicable. Trump is still a scorpion.
 
Concart said:
Remember how popular Bush was after 9/11. Despite his utter failure in Afghanistan, he was highly popular, because he actually sounded like a leader. If the election had been held in November of that year, he would have beaten anyone in a cakewalk. Trump could have done the same, but the tale of the scorpion and the frog is applicable. Trump is still a scorpion.
Click to expand...


Do you think he could possibly pull some sort of reincarnation at this date? He will need to start a war or to blow up a trade center.
 
Micawber said:
Do you think he could possibly pull some sort of reincarnation at this date? He will need to start a war or to blow up a trade center.
Click to expand...

No, because no matter what happens, either intentionally or by other means, Trump will turn it into a base play. That's all he knows how to do.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top