And the President thinks he is going to have tax "reform" by the first of the year?

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Also, question dropped, how will they pay for it.
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since when did a liberal worry about how we were going to pay for something :rofl2:

"US debt doubles under Obama"
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/17/budget-deficit-nearly-doubles-during-obama-years/

and Democrats better hope Trump gets his Tax reform through, going to be a tough time explaining to voters why you didn't think we should be able to keep more of our money because you were suddenly worried the government didn't spend enough already.
Do you ever use your brain, or has CNN blocked all thought transmission?
 
Getin the ring said:
since when did a liberal worry about how we were going to pay for something :rofl2:

"US debt doubles under Obama"
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/17/budget-deficit-nearly-doubles-during-obama-years/

and Democrats better hope Trump gets his Tax reform through, going to be a tough time explaining to voters why you didn't think we should be able to keep more of our money because you were suddenly worried the government didn't spend enough already.
Do you ever use your brain, or has CNN blocked all thought transmission?
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Who wrote the spending bills while Obama was in office?
 
floridafan said:
Who wrote the spending bills while Obama was in office?
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ohh, so the doubling of the debt while Obama was in office is the republicans fault.

You guys are hilarious, pathetic but a real laugh machine you and your all good is on me all bad is on you theory on everything A to Z
 
Getin the ring said:
ohh, so the doubling of the debt while Obama was in office is the republicans fault.

You guys are hilarious, pathetic but a real laugh machine you and your all good is on me all bad is on you theory on everything A to Z
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Yes it was the republicans fault, almost completely for 6 years. Who wrote the spending bills?
 
floridafan said:
Yes it was the republicans fault, almost completely for 6 years. Who wrote the spending bills?
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and who signed the spending bills goofy?

You need to grow a set and own what you own, then MAYBE someone will take you serious.
You can't on the one hand take credit for things that went well, the recovery, employment rate dropping 20 million more people insured since Obamacare.

But then run from the things that went wrong, like underemployment, doubling the deficit, and 40 million people still without insurance because Obamacare is a ruse.

It just makes you look uninformed, which I already knew, but your team counts on you to make sense once in a while
take the little girly panties off, own it.
 
Getin the ring said:
and who signed the spending bills goofy?

You need to grow a set and own what you own, then MAYBE someone will take you serious.
You can't on the one hand take credit for things that went well, the recovery, employment rate dropping 20 million more people insured since Obamacare.

But then run from the things that went wrong, like underemployment, doubling the deficit, and 40 million people still without insurance because Obamacare is a ruse.

It just makes you look uninformed, which I already knew, but your team counts on you to make sense once in a while
take the little girly panties off, own it.
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Once again I ask who wrote the spending bills? They had to originate somewhere or else the President wouldn't have had anything to sign.
 
floridafan said:
If there is a spending problem, why hasn't the republican Congress done something about it? These are your people, the ones you elected, yet they do nothing.
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They have "done something"......the best act of legislation is the one that does not come. The more you legislate the more you dictate. It would be completely satisfying to any constitutional conservative if there was not "ONE" new act of legislation over the entire length of Mr. Trumps administration. That way there can be no more DICTATIONS from the fascist democrat party.
 
Ralph said:
They have "done something"......the best act of legislation is the one that does not come. The more you legislate the more you dictate. It would be completely satisfying to any constitutional conservative if there was not "ONE" new act of legislation over the entire length of Mr. Trumps administration. That way there can be no more DICTATIONS from the fascist democrat party.
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Your tax reform will balloon the deficit. Is that ok with you?
 
Ralph said:
They have "done something"......the best act of legislation is the one that does not come. The more you legislate the more you dictate. It would be completely satisfying to any constitutional conservative if there was not "ONE" new act of legislation over the entire length of Mr. Trumps administration. That way there can be no more DICTATIONS from the fascist democrat party.
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Then how you going to get rid of Obamacare if there wasn't "ONE new act of legislation?"
 
anatta said:
The House and Senate — I think we need to do even more to provide a tax cut, not just tax reform, but a tax cut for every American,” said Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas).

Democratic critics of the plan are seizing on the findings, while moderate Democrats whom Republicans want to work with are expressing caution.

he JCT said that only 8 percent of taxpayers would pay more in 2019 under the plan.

What’s more, Republicans said the legislation will be massaged as it makes its way through Congress.

“There’s definitely going to be changes,” said Rep. Vern Buchanan (R-Fla.), who sits on the House’s tax-writing committee. “We’ve got somewhat of a final product, but it’s quite awhile before we have a final, final product.”

“It’s a nine-inning game — we’re in the third,” he sa
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Republicans hope to push down the corporate tax rate, hoping to lower it from the current level of 35 percent to something in the low 20s.

They are also working to lower the tax rate paid by businesses that are organized in such a way that they pay through the individual income tax code.

Negotiators also want to simplify the tax code that individuals and families pay by eliminating certain tax brackets while also providing a large tax cut for the middle class.

White House officials are leaning toward preserving the top tax bracket for individuals at the current 39.6 percent.

They plan to offset some, but not all, of these rate reductions by cutting back on tax deductions that families and companies have used for years. This includes eliminating the ability to deduct state and local taxes from taxable income and curbing the ability of companies to deduct interest payments.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/white-house-plan-for-tax-cuts-moves-forward/2017/09/21/d1482576-9eea-11e7-9c8d-cf053ff30921_story.html?utm_term=.fef149b3a656
 
Getin the ring said:
ohh, so the doubling of the debt while Obama was in office is the republicans fault.

You guys are hilarious, pathetic but a real laugh machine you and your all good is on me all bad is on you theory on everything A to Z
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And another piece of history that you are ignoring is that a whole lot of the money was spent on two wars and a drug prescription plan that the prior Administration left behind
 
abchovies said:
Well lets see if you can comprehend simple mathematics there emoji, if you decrease the amount of money coming in without making appropriate cuts in the money you spend what does that leave you with?
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Who said they wouldn't decrease spending, anchovies?

Who said that decreasing some taxes will result in lower government revenue, anchovies?
 
anchovies said:
And another piece of history that you are ignoring is that a whole lot of the money was spent on two wars and a drug prescription plan that the prior Administration left behind
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All Obama had to do was draft and sign another couple of Executive Orders, right, anchovies?

He didn't, did he, anchovies?
 
Donald Trump told wealthy diners: "We'll get your taxes down - don't worry about it," to a standing ovation in a posh New York restaurant.

"The US President elect, with former glamour model and First Lady-to-be Melania smiling, was whooped, cheered and given approving whistles by rich customers at the exclusive eatery.


A video shows Mr Trump , 70, wading through his well-off supporters, who will be hoping for big tax breaks from the next president, and making the pledge to cut their taxes.

It comes after Mr Trump beat rival Hillary Clinton to the White House, claiming he would fight against the 'establishment' on behalf of ordinary working-class Americans"

Why would we think Trump is a champion of the working poor and middle classes like he said publicly, when the camera was on privately he was promising the rich tax cuts?
Just like the pussy grabbing video, you think Trump is a champion of women's lib?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/trump-promises-tax-breaks-posh-9269522
 
archives said:
Then how you going to get rid of Obamacare if there wasn't "ONE new act of legislation?"
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It will die a slow and painful death....just as planned by the original architects, the only problem, the socialist demwits who constructed this boondoggle so it could fail and allow socialized medicine (single payer controlled by the state) to...wink, wink, come to the rescue are no longer driving the bus. LET IF FAIL just like all the social liberals failures of the past that have resulted in a 20 trillion dollar debt. No legislation is far superior than more more dictatorial regulations. Right now, it looks more and more likely that Obama Care will begin its death rattle just about in time for the midterms.

Democrats..the only people that could or would bury themselves in order to demonstrate they know how to use a shovel, just not the best use.

You are the party of progress...if you call giving away more and more personal rights and liberties PROGRESS, some of us who actually have the capacity for critical independent "thinking and reasoning"....call it FASCISM.

I enjoy pointing out the many FALSE PREMISES propagated by ignorant liberals....one major false premise that congress MUST LEGISLATE to accomplish anything....but in reality the United States and the people thereof (the actual owners of this nation) do far better when congress is on VACATION and stops sticking its nose about a foot up the people's ass.
 
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Ralph said:
It will die a slow and painful death....just as planned by the original architects, the only problem, the socialist demwits who constructed this boondoggle so it could fail and allow socialized medicine (single payer controlled by the state) to the rescue are no longer driving the bus. LET IF FAIL just like all the social liberals failures of the past that have resulted in a 20 trillion dollar debt. No legislation is far superior for more dictatorial regulations.
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Must be why a record number of people have signed up for coverage
 
archives said:
Well lets see if you can comprehend simple mathematics there emoji, if you decrease the amount of money coming in without making appropriate cuts in the money you spend what does that leave you with?
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You are confusing the Rhinos and Liberals with real conservatives... those who continue to spend like there is no budget crisis and place everything on their kids and grandkid's credit card. Simply stop 10% of the waste and fraud that has resulted from past LIBERAL SOCIAL PROGRAMS, and bingo....you can balance the damn budget.

Right now Big Brother collects almost 8 Trillion each and every year? What? Are you going to tell us that you can't run a nation on 7.5 Trillion a year? Really?
 
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