Beefy
Worst gambler ever
Should we invade them, shock them, awe them, and thus liberate them for it?
Another Dixie Prediction Goes Horribly Wrong
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Should we invade them, shock them, awe them, and thus liberate them for it?
AnyOldIron
Atheist Missionary
It is difficult to believe that people still think that the invasion of Iraq has had a positive effect on the battle against Islamic extremism, that it was good strategy.
That's dogmatism for you.....
That's dogmatism for you.....
whether it is positive against islamic extremeism remains to be seen. it ain't over yet. right now, they are killing each other, which may be interpreted as a good thing in the war against islamic extremeis; even the palestiians are at each other's throats which israel and tha administration loves.
you know the real reason we're there isn't cuz of saddam and wmd; it's cuz of iran and the admin's thoughts that our direct presence is necessary in the region to control, or at least have large influence, on the flow of oil.
the fact is that the reason we are still there after three years is not because we can't control iraq 9we could if we really wanted to). it is because the admin doe not WANT to leave yet; if we congtrolled and subdued iraq, then there would be no reason for us to stay, and then leaving would destroy the strategic value of our presence.
we ain't out of there until an admin decides we don't need to be there any longer, and just don't think cuz a dem gets elecgted pres that s/he will cut and run. once they are briefed on the reality of the situation, then that dem prez is going to think real hard before destroying any strategic value we have in the reason.
you know the real reason we're there isn't cuz of saddam and wmd; it's cuz of iran and the admin's thoughts that our direct presence is necessary in the region to control, or at least have large influence, on the flow of oil.
the fact is that the reason we are still there after three years is not because we can't control iraq 9we could if we really wanted to). it is because the admin doe not WANT to leave yet; if we congtrolled and subdued iraq, then there would be no reason for us to stay, and then leaving would destroy the strategic value of our presence.
we ain't out of there until an admin decides we don't need to be there any longer, and just don't think cuz a dem gets elecgted pres that s/he will cut and run. once they are briefed on the reality of the situation, then that dem prez is going to think real hard before destroying any strategic value we have in the reason.
Gaffer
Sanctimonious Prick
Well if it was up to me we would. I'd let Israel handle most of it while we concentrate on iran.
AnyOldIron
Atheist Missionary
Well if it was up to me we would. I'd let Israel handle most of it while we concentrate on iran.
Your problem is that you don't understand the enemy you are fighting.
You should read:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Al-Qaeda-True-Story-Radical-Islam/dp/0141019123
Your problem is that you don't understand the enemy you are fighting.
You should read:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Al-Qaeda-True-Story-Radical-Islam/dp/0141019123
AnyOldIron
Atheist Missionary
Hip, You mean any strategic value bush has not already destroyed with his blundering ?
The only strategic value in Iraq is held by the extremists.
AQ isn't a terrorist group anymore, it is a message, 'the struggle against zulm'.
We have handed the extremists another cause celebre to allow them to garner recruits, support and resources. We have reinforced the notion of 'the struggle against zulm'.
Until we recognise that we aren't fighting a group, or organisation, but an idea, we will continue to follow poor strategies and keep losing...
The only strategic value in Iraq is held by the extremists.
AQ isn't a terrorist group anymore, it is a message, 'the struggle against zulm'.
We have handed the extremists another cause celebre to allow them to garner recruits, support and resources. We have reinforced the notion of 'the struggle against zulm'.
Until we recognise that we aren't fighting a group, or organisation, but an idea, we will continue to follow poor strategies and keep losing...
Astonishing.
Bush is spending a trillion taxpayer dollars, getting tens of thousands of american servicemen and women killed and wounded, and sacrificing our nation's moral authority....and he still let the WMD get away???
Why aren't you demanding Bush resign, for gross incompetence? Hell, Carter was virtually run out of office for crashing a couple of helicopters in the Iranian desert.