Another year, more California 'exes' are living in Texas

ExpressLane said:
California is losing representative seats and Texas is gaining them. Some employees will move from California but a lot of those businesses will be hiring new Texan employees.
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For an outfit like the one I just talked about, Koya Medical, I guarantee you hardly anyone is moving to Texas for those min wage warehouse gigs or craptastic desk jobs with little chance of advancement.
I also guarantee eighty percent of his Texas hires will be undocumented.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Let's TAKE Koya, for example.
Their main gig is making compression socks for people with edema.

They began in Oakland and I freely and unashamedly admit that Oakland is not an example of a thriving business environment but it never really was even back when Koya first went into business.
Does anybody think that CEO Andy Doraiswamy hired a bunch of locals to sew or weave compression socks?
I guarantee you those socks are made in a sweatshop in some third world country, and always have been, because two hundred staff is never going to meet national needs for compression socks in a nation where almost forty percent of people are obese and headed to bigger and heavier territory.

No, we're talking about two hundred administrative and warehousing staff, I'll bet money on it.
And since I'd also bet money that his products are not made in USA, I describe a company like this as strictly bottom feeder because it's just another corporation that turns cheap third world labor into cash.
He probably couldn't find enough people willing to work for peanuts in shipping and warehousing.
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How much money are you willing to bet?
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
I'll put ten bucks on it, donated to the forum, of course.
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OK. You lose.

Koya's main product isn't a simple woven TED hose it is an active compression device. Texas will gladly take those manufacturing jobs.

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Koya was founded in 2018 with the mission to transform venous and lymphatic care through innovative patient-centric platforms. We are privately held and proudly located in Oakland, California where we design, develop and manufacture our products.
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Checkerboard Strangler said:
Yes, hysteria, or whatever you call your doomsday wobbling.
According to recent data, California is home to over 4 million businesses and you folks are running around with your hair on fire over three hundred of them.
Look, if there are course corrections, there are course corrections, that's how business works.
But describing 360 exits in a field of millions, where tens of thousands happen to be corporations, is hysteria.

And as for losing some representation, allow me to remind you what we're looking at.
STATES WITH LESS POPULATION THAN L.A. COUNTY

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I actually don't disagree with your position that the headlines showing certain businesses moving states isn't necessarily a huge deal. At a certain point though, the numbers start to add up and from a California perspective if the businesses replacing the ones leaving don't produce at the same level then it becomes an issue.

California is going to remain the most populous state and still wield lots of power, however it will be less power as we lose electoral college votes and Congressional seats.
 
cawacko said:
I actually don't disagree with your position that the headlines showing certain businesses moving states isn't necessarily a huge deal. At a certain point though, the numbers start to add up and from a California perspective if the businesses replacing the ones leaving don't produce at the same level then it becomes an issue.

California is going to remain the most populous state and still wield lots of power, however it will be less power as we lose electoral college votes and Congressional seats.
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Understood but I just don't see some frantic mass exodus happening.
California is making course corrections, AND some economic factors are making course corrections on California but on the whole these are small adjustments.
Furthermore, I predict an eventual possibility that some people in other states are going to want to come TO California as they flee the kinds of conditions being imposed on their lives by MAGA policies.

I also don't see California's 54 electoral votes (Yes, used to be 55) shrinking to something drastic like 21...or even 51.
A lot of noise is being made, mountains out of mole hills.
For people who thrive on California bashing this is Valhalla but for most rational people it's a tempest in a teapot.
 
ExpressLane said:
OK. You lose.

Koya's main product isn't a simple woven TED hose it is an active compression device. Texas will gladly take those manufacturing jobs.

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You think this is about winning and losing? 😆
If I "lose" it means an opportunity for me to learn something, not a wound to my pride.
Please...grow up a little bit, because we're not in junior high, at least I'm not.

If what you're saying is accurate then yes, Texans WILL take those manufacturing jobs, and most likely they will be undocumented Texans who are willing to work those factory jobs for $7.25 an hour.

Since my wife is a VA patient, I'll ask to see one when we go there in a few minutes.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Understood but I just don't see some frantic mass exodus happening.
California is making course corrections, AND some economic factors are making course corrections on California but on the whole these are small adjustments.
Furthermore, I predict an eventual possibility that some people in other states are going to want to come TO California as they flee the kinds of conditions being imposed on their lives by MAGA policies.

I also don't see California's 54 electoral votes (Yes, used to be 55) shrinking to something drastic like 21...or even 51.
A lot of noise is being made, mountains out of mole hills.
For people who thrive on California bashing this is Valhalla but for most rational people it's a tempest in a teapot.
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No, there's not going to be some mass exodus from the state (like millions of people leaving). But the state is very reliant on the top 1% and businesses for revenue, so if even a small number do start to leave the state will feel the effects materially.

The state essentially says to people here 'you may complain about the high taxes, regulatory environment, etc. etc. but at the end of the day we don't think you'll leave (because where else where you go)'. And clearly most don't. But there are more businesses and rich people leaving.

As far as people moving to California it's only going to be so many as we basically refuse to build new housing. So unless you are rich or are young and willing to do what it takes (multiple roommates etc.) there is a certain barrier that prevents a number of people from coming, even if they want to.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Understood but I just don't see some frantic mass exodus happening.
California is making course corrections, AND some economic factors are making course corrections on California but on the whole these are small adjustments.
Furthermore, I predict an eventual possibility that some people in other states are going to want to come TO California as they flee the kinds of conditions being imposed on their lives by MAGA policies.

I also don't see California's 54 electoral votes (Yes, used to be 55) shrinking to something drastic like 21...or even 51.
A lot of noise is being made, mountains out of mole hills.
For people who thrive on California bashing this is Valhalla but for most rational people it's a tempest in a teapot.
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This may be behind a paywall but was in the Chronicle a few days ago.

This addresses the state losing power and the housing issue, which makes it so difficult for people to move here.

There’s no protecting California values without building more housing​

Slow housing production is a threat to the state’s political values and power in the aftermath of the presidential election​


 
Diogenes said:
It's not as if tech innovation only springs out of the ground in one location, is it?
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Basically, with computer tech you can divide all startups into three roughly equal groups. There is Silicon Valley and the San Francisco area, there is the rest of the USA, and there is the rest of the world.

So while it sometimes seems like all innovation comes from Silicon Valley, only about half of American computer innovation comes from there. Which is more than can be housed there, so Silicon Valley is constantly pumping out innovation to the rest of the country.
 
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