Anti Science?

Excellent article SF.....thanks.......
Its damn hard to get the whole truth in front of people when the vast majority of media is so "spin oriented" and radical left wing by their own admission.....
Goebbels and Göring could learn something form the todays left.

Love the way they will harp on some statistic that says 50% of Conservatives believe, whatever.....and fail to mention to 49% of liberals believe the same thing....
 
People belive things because they want them to be true, because they're afraid that they're true and because authority told them that they're true.

Nobody ever said that people believed true things.
 
Superfreak said:
http://www.science20.com/science_20...nt_editors_shouldnt_write_about_science-86110

a pretty fair write up on the absurdity coming from the left.
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O.M.G.

A "pretty fair" write up...

I hate to break it to you SF, but only a partisan hack such as yourself would call the screeching, ad hominem filled diatribe a "pretty fair" write up blah blah blah.

What...you think because it comes from a website with "science" in the site name, that qualifies it as "factual"?
 
ZappasGuitar said:
O.M.G.

A "pretty fair" write up...

I hate to break it to you SF, but only a partisan hack such as yourself would call the screeching, ad hominem filled diatribe a "pretty fair" write up blah blah blah.

What...you think because it comes from a website with "science" in the site name, that qualifies it as "factual"?
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care to dispute any facts listed in the article? or are we just supposed to take your word for it?

i have a hunch you didn't even read the article because it doesn't comport to your world view. it was actually a good article, assuming his facts are true.
 
Superfreak said:
http://www.science20.com/science_20...nt_editors_shouldnt_write_about_science-86110

a pretty fair write up on the absurdity coming from the left.
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Fair my ass. It's completely absurd. There are plenty of anti-science ignoramous on both sides of the political aisle and the irrational left may take stances against ionizong radiation, vaccines and GMF's that defy science but they have hardly any mainstream influence and can hardly compare to the vast and sweeping denials of huge bodies of knowledge that we see on the right when they denounce climate science and evolutionary science. The article, in context of opposition to mainstream, science is absurd!

Polls show that even in this day and age over 60% of the population does not believe in evolutionary theory and those same polls show 80% of those are on the political right.

Now when you conisder that evolutionary theory is foundational to the entire science of biology to then equate a handful of lunatic fringe on the left who may not believe in vaccination with the tens of millions of people on the right who do not believe in the foundational building blocks of an entire science is beyond ludicrous and is down right laughable!
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Fair my ass. It's completely absurd. There are plenty of anti-science ignoramous on both sides of the political aisle and the irrational left may take stances against ionizong radiation, vaccines and GMF's that defy science but they have hardly any mainstream influence and can hardly compare to the vast and sweeping denials of huge bodies of knowledge that we see on the right when they denounce climate science and evolutionary science. The article, in context of opposition to mainstream, science is absurd!

Polls show that even in this day and age over 60% of the population does not believe in evolutionary theory and those same polls show 80% of those are on the political right.

Now when you conisder that evolutionary theory is foundational to the entire science of biology to then equate a handful of lunatic fringe on the left who may not believe in vaccination with the tens of millions of people on the right who do not believe in the foundational building blocks of an entire science is beyond ludicrous and is down right laughable!
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uh huh...sure mott

http://www.gallup.com/poll/145286/four-americans-believe-strict-creationism.aspx

try using a poll instead of your opinion
 
Yurt said:
care to dispute any facts listed in the article? or are we just supposed to take your word for it?

i have a hunch you didn't even read the article because it doesn't comport to your world view. it was actually a good article, assuming his facts are true.
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zappa still can't dispute a single thing...just....it is wrong because i say it is wrong and i will bash the source rather than the actual date.

:rolleyes:
 
Mott the Hoople said:
You mean like this one? http://www.gallup.com/poll/114544/darwin-birthday-believe-evolution.aspx

Oh...and btw, your link pretty much supports my comments. 40% of the population believes in strict creationism and the over whelming majority of them are on the political right.
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bullshit.

1. your poll doesn't even mention republican vs. dems

2. my poll is more current and it says only 52 percent of republicans, 34% dems. that is not an "overwhelming" majority and a far cry from your bogus claim of 80%.

3. in fact when you include the independants, pubs are'nt even the majority of americans as you claim.
 
I don't give a shit who believes what. I only give a shit about the people that want their beliefs taught in schools as science. Those people are Republicans.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
O.M.G.

A "pretty fair" write up...

I hate to break it to you SF, but only a partisan hack such as yourself would call the screeching, ad hominem filled diatribe a "pretty fair" write up blah blah blah.

What...you think because it comes from a website with "science" in the site name, that qualifies it as "factual"?
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LMAO... obviously you didn't even read the piece. Do show us what in the article it is that you think is 'screeching' or an 'ad hom' attack. Then do show us the political affiliation and lean of the author of the piece.
 
Yurt said:
bullshit.

1. your poll doesn't even mention republican vs. dems

2. my poll is more current and it says only 52 percent of republicans, 34% dems. that is not an "overwhelming" majority and a far cry from your bogus claim of 80%.

3. in fact when you include the independants, pubs are'nt even the majority of americans as you claim.
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Nip, nip, nip....how many evengelicals do you see on the left?

You're not reading the link you provided correctly. It's showing that 52% of Repubs believe in strict creationism It's not stating that 48% beleive in evolution.

Be that as it may, you're parsing and splitting hairs. Vast numbers of those on the right simply don't believe in vast sweeps of mainstream science for a far larger degree then those on the left do.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Nip, nip, nip....how many evengelicals do you see on the left?

You're not reading the link you provided correctly. It's showing that 52% of Repubs believe in strict creationism It's not stating that 48% beleive in evolution.

Be that as it may, you're parsing and splitting hairs. Vast numbers of those on the right simply don't believe in vast sweeps of mainstream science for a far larger degree then those on the left do.
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i'm not parsing anything. you're just incapable of providing a link to back up your claim so you'll now merely attack my link which actually had polled data, unlike yours.

face it mott, you screwed up and will now simply attack me in the hopes of deflecting your screw up.
 
if mott wants to go strict evolution with no god....then we have only 8% pubs and only 20% dems.

you should stop while you're ahead mott.....
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Fair my ass. It's completely absurd. There are plenty of anti-science ignoramous on both sides of the political aisle and the irrational left may take stances against ionizong radiation, vaccines and GMF's that defy science but they have hardly any mainstream influence and can hardly compare to the vast and sweeping denials of huge bodies of knowledge that we see on the right when they denounce climate science and evolutionary science. The article, in context of opposition to mainstream, science is absurd!
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ROFLMAO... so the left taking stances against scientists using animals for testing... that doesn't affect anything? Vaccines don't have any mainstream influence?

'Climate Science' as you refer to it is an affront to science. It clearly fails at following BASIC scientific principles. REAL climate science is ignored by the buffoons on the left like you.

Polls show that even in this day and age over 60% of the population does not believe in evolutionary theory and those same polls show 80% of those are on the political right.
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By all means, link us up to these polls.

Now when you conisder that evolutionary theory is foundational to the entire science of biology to then equate a handful of lunatic fringe on the left who may not believe in vaccination with the tens of millions of people on the right who do not believe in the foundational building blocks of an entire science is beyond ludicrous and is down right laughable!
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Such a little emo. You are exactly the type of nutjob on the left that the author is referring to.
 
Yurt said:
care to dispute any facts listed in the article? or are we just supposed to take your word for it?

i have a hunch you didn't even read the article because it doesn't comport to your world view. it was actually a good article, assuming his facts are true.
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What facts?

It's an Op-ed piece attacking Tom Chivers.

The entire first PARAGRAPH is one enormous, long winded ad hom.
 
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