ANTIFA: Berkley again.

BentBow

BentBow

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The rally against Communism and Fascism, was over run by mask wearing ANTIFA. only a few arrest were made.


CALIFORNIA Penal Code Section 182-185
185. Section One Hundred and Eighty-five. It shall be unlawful for any person to wear any mask, false whiskers, or any personal disguise (whether complete or partial) for the purpose of: One--Evading or escaping discovery, recognition, or identification in the commission of any public offense. Two--Concealment, flight, or escape, when charged with, arrested for, or convicted of, any public offense. Any person violating any of the provisions of this section shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor.

A rally against Communism, gets protested by ANTIFA. What does that say to you.....
Time to bear arms if you ask me. Communism has NO PLACE in the USA. Give me Liberty, or I give you death, when you prevent me.
 
the group of more than 100 hooded protesters, with shields emblazoned with the words “no hate” and waving a flag identifying themselves as anarchists, busted through police lines, avoiding security checks by officers to take away possible weapons. ...

violence erupted when left-wing protesters surrounded and attacked at least five right-wing demonstrators in Berkeley......

Several thousand people had congregated for a “Rally Against Hate” in response to the planned right-wing protest that raised concerns of violence and triggered a massive police presence.

Once anarchists arrived, it was clear there would not be dueling protests between left and right so he ordered his officers out of the park and allowed the anarchists to march in.

There was “no need for a confrontation over a grass patch,” Greenwood said.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/2...ck-clad-anarchists-storm-rightwing-rally.html
 
It would not do me any good, to go to one of these things.

I'd end up suing the police and the city, for forbidding me to protect myself and the Constitution, from all forms of oppressive Communism.
It would be fix bayonets, after the magazines were empty.
 
noise said:
the group of more than 100 hooded protesters, with shields emblazoned with the words “no hate” and waving a flag identifying themselves as anarchists, busted through police lines, avoiding security checks by officers to take away possible weapons. ...

violence erupted when left-wing protesters surrounded and attacked at least five right-wing demonstrators in Berkeley......

Several thousand people had congregated for a “Rally Against Hate” in response to the planned right-wing protest that raised concerns of violence and triggered a massive police presence.

Once anarchists arrived, it was clear there would not be dueling protests between left and right so he ordered his officers out of the park and allowed the anarchists to march in.

There was “no need for a confrontation over a grass patch,” Greenwood said.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/2...ck-clad-anarchists-storm-rightwing-rally.html
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do you understand what anarchists seek?


they seek chaos


youn dont get to change who they identify as.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_movements



Antifa movements and Anti-Fascist Action networks are post-World War II left wing, often anarchist, extra-parliamentary political movements opposing political ideas and movements that members describe as fascist. Such movements have been active in several countries in the second half of the 20th and early 21st century.
 
Darth Omar said:
But their reporting would do Orwell proud lol.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...ing-no-to-Marxism-is-a-far-right-position-now
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And finally, almost on cue, WashPo implies that Trump has something to do with the left's madness by asserting that 'such violence has become a regular feature of the Trump years'.
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funny how a zillion politicians condemned nazi, but not this violence..

I knew this was going to happen when nobody stopped them from bringing weapons and wearing masks..
They are nothing more then thugs
 
evince said:
do you understand what anarchists seek?


they seek chaos


youn dont get to change who they identify as.
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I call bullshit on that.

If Trump owns every two bit rightwing group, and has to denounce each one by name, repeatedly, then the left owns Antifa and the anarchists.

Not that there's a nickel's worth of distinction between them.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism


Anarchism is a political philosophy that advocates self-governed societies based on voluntary institutions. These are often described as stateless societies,[1][2][3][4] although several authors have defined them more specifically as institutions based on non-hierarchical free associations.[5][6][7][8] Anarchism holds the state to be undesirable, unnecessary, and harmful.[9][10]
While anti-statism is central,[11] anarchism specifically entails opposing authority or hierarchical organisation in the conduct of all human relations, including, but not limited to, the state system. Anarchism is usually considered an extreme left-wing ideology,[12][13] and much of anarchist economics and anarchist legal philosophy reflects anti-authoritarian interpretations of communism, collectivism, syndicalism, mutualism, or participatory economics.[14]
Anarchism does not offer a fixed body of doctrine from a single particular world view, instead fluxing and flowing as a philosophy.[15] Many types and traditions of anarchism exist, not all of which are mutually exclusive.[16] Anarchist schools of thought can differ fundamentally, supporting anything from extreme individualism to complete collectivism.[10] Strains of anarchism have often been divided into the categories of social and individualist anarchism or similar dual classifications.[17
 
Darth Omar said:
I call bullshit on that.

If Trump owns every two bit rightwing group, and has to denounce each one by name, repeatedly, then the left owns Antifa and the anarchists.

Not that there's a nickel's worth of distinction between them.
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she wants to declare antifa as anarchists now? Ha! Last week they were celebrated for being anti-Nazi's, against racism etc. Now that they are the ones causing violence she wants nothing to do with them. Classic.
 
noise said:
funny how a zillion politicians condemned nazi, but not this violence..

I knew this was going to happen when nobody stopped them from bringing weapons and wearing masks..
They are nothing more then thugs
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Nancy Pelosi, promoted this violence as acceptable.
Someone needs to take that crazy Commie out of the gene pool.
 
Darth Omar said:
I call bullshit on that.

If Trump owns every two bit rightwing group, and has to denounce each one by name, repeatedly, then the left owns Antifa and the anarchists.

Not that there's a nickel's worth of distinction between them.
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nope


I just proved you wrong with facts asshole.


you own the racist groups because your presdient Mr trump keeps trying to get their support and agrees with their ideas



I AM NOT AN ANARCHIST


look at the democratic platform


It is not anrachism


Anrachists are closer to your ideas.


they say governance should allow people to NOT pay taxes if they dont like them.

thats YOU
 
From our local Berkeley bred newscaster Frank Sommerville on the hate yesterday he experienced first hand:


I experienced hate first hand today.

It came from these people dressed in all black at a protest in Berkeley.

Ironically they were all chanting about NO hate.
Some had shields and gloves.

Some had helmets.
Some had gas masks.
I was watching them and taking it all in.

I came there on my own time.
Because I wanted to see things first hand.
I was dressed in shorts and a tank top.

At one point I took out my phone to take a picture.
And that's when it all happened.
(And just to be clear they were playing for the cameras in front but I was toward the back. And since there were already so many people taking their picture I didn't think it would be an issue.)

I took these two pictures and afterward they started screaming at me.
I thought for sure they were going to attack.
I was just waiting for it.

I wasn't scared.
But I stayed calm even though I thought this may not end well for me.

Here's how the conversation went.

And as you're reading this keep in mind that they were yelling at me and their words were filled with venom, anger, hate and intolerance.
There's just no other way to describe it.

I was stunned.

Them:
Hey! No pictures or we'll take your phone!!!
(At that point I'd already taken these shots)

Me (In calm voice):
You're on public property and I can take a picture if I want to.

Them:
Oh so you're a big man with a camera?

Me:
No I just wanted to take a picture and talk with you.

Them (rushing toward me):
We outnumber you and we will take your camera!

Me:
You're not going to take my camera and you're not going to tell me what to do.
Why can't we just have a respectful conversation.
(I then touched one of them on her hand to say it's okay I just want to talk)

Them:
Don't touch me!!

Me:
I'm not trying to do anything.
I just want to try to understand and have a respectful conversation.

Them:
We'll block your shot!!!

Me:
That's fine.
All I wanted to do was have a conversation.

Them:
Now is not the time.
(In fairness he was the one person who was respectful)

Then as I started to walk away a woman started screaming at me saying:
We're not interested in talking to you!!
We're not interested in talking to you!!

I walked away stunned.
I grew up in Berkeley.

I marched in anti-war protests during the sixties.
Its one thing to read about HATE
It's another thing to be right next to it.

In my opinion, these people dressed in black are just as hateful and intolerant as the people they are protesting against.
Afterward I was talking to several other protesters.
(Not dressed in black)

One of them actually stood up for me as the people dressed in black were threatening me.
I was touched.
They were just as disappointed as I was.

They said that the people dressed in black represent a small minority and that they "hijack" the protests.
And I agree.
MOST of the people out there today in Berkeley were non-violent.

They were there for the cause.
They just wanted to come out and stand up against hate.
I totally support them.
But I do not support extremists, whether they are on the right or the left.
Hate is hate.

And I experienced it first hand today.
It was sad to see.


https://www.facebook.com/FrankSomervilleKTVU/posts/1596811600382161
 
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