Antifa, not just an idea but a bunch of terrorists

LOL. They have their own branding, flags, aps, and definitely exist. Repeating that they do not because you have been told to repeat it doesn't change these things...

QP Herman at it again.
So does white nationalism.

So if 80 year old Dorothy and Jim, a happily married couple who simply believe America should be a white christian nation, but never do anything to about it, ...are they part of a terrorist movement or would you label them that if other who identify as white nationalists commit crimes in the name of it?
 
So does white nationalism.

So if 80 year old Dorothy and Jim, a happily married couple who simply believe America should be a white christian nation, are they part of a terrorist movement or would you label them that if other who identify as white nationalists commit crimes in the name of it?
Yes, there are actual White Nationalist groups that certainly exist.

QP Herman trying the "I know you are, but what am I" defense again.

Magically got to try to make a structured decentralized movement disappear from history by his will alone and suggesting that they don't exist because other groups do.... Make sense. Stop pretending someone said those idiotic White Power idiots don't exist. Nobody said that... However, the branding, the flags, the aps, the groups... They really do exist, even if you think I would say they don't.

You though, you tell me that this never happened:

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This is why people like @Damocles need to seriously speak less and try to learn things before looking stupid.

No, White Nationalism is not an organization no matter how much Damo tries to argue they are because they have their own branding, flags, aps, and definitely exist.

Damo does separate that some grifters may try to profit from creating that stuff and simply thinks that White Nationalism is like the Proud Boys is like the Hells Angels.

He thinks that as he is stupid.

White Nationalism like being Against Fascism or being Against Russia, is a belief system some people may have and one you may even occasionally see individuals or groups take action.

But what they DO NOT HAVE is a hierarchical organization like the Hells Angels or Proud boys do in that you could outlaw the group.

You can not more outlaw people holding White Nationalist ideas than you can those who are hold ideas Against Fascism.

Only a stupid person falls for it.
 
This is why people like @Damocles need to seriously speak less and try to learn things before looking stupid.

No, White Nationalism is not an organization no matter how much Damo tries to argue they are because they have their own branding, flags, aps, and definitely exist.

Damo does separate that some grifters may try to profit from creating that stuff and simply thinks that White Nationalism is like the Proud Boys is like the Hells Angels.

He thinks that as he is stupid.

White Nationalism like being Against Fascism or being Against Russia, is a belief system some people may have and one you may even occasionally see individuals or groups take action.

But what they DO NOT HAVE is a hierarchical organization like the Hells Angels or Proud boys do in that you could outlaw the group.

You can not more outlaw people holding White Nationalist ideas than you can those who are hold ideas Against Fascism.

Only a stupid person falls for it.
LOL. Pretending groups do not exist because they do not match your demand they be hierarchical is just an attempt to gaslight people.

We are supposed to believe they do not exist because you say so, and we must ignore the evidence before our eyes, because you want us to.

I get that you want them to vanish from history, but it isn't going to work. We can see that they exist, we can see that they are organized, and we can see that you are lying when you tell us they do not exist.
 
Yes, there are actual White Nationalist groups that certainly exist.

QP Herman trying the "I know you are, but what am I" defense again.

Magically got to try to make a structured decentralized movement disappear from history by his will alone and suggesting that they don't exist because other groups do.... Make sense. Stop pretending someone said those idiotic White Power idiots don't exist. Nobody said that... However, the branding, the flags, the aps, the groups... They really do exist, even if you think I would say they don't.

You though, you tell me that this never happened:

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So try and be smart then Damo. Try and actually think.

Can the US then proclaim White Nationalism a terrorist group. if some of those groups take criminal and terrorist actions, and then criminalize everyone who identifies with it?

Anyone who then says they are a White Nationalist could be arrested just as if the Proud Boys was declared a terrorist organization, its members could be arrested?

Is that you are equating White Nationalism, Antifa and the Hells Angels. Like when the police are doing a sweep of all Hells Angels.

If you think that you are stupid. They can and would arrest all Hells Angels with that declaration but not everyone who identifies as WHite Nationalist nor Against Fascism.
 
LOL. Pretending groups do not exist because they do not match your demand they be hierarchical is just an attempt to gaslight people.

We are supposed to believe they do not exist because you say so, and we must ignore the evidence before our eyes, because you want us to.

I get that you want them to vanish from history, but it isn't going to work. We can see that they exist, we can see that they are organized, and we can see that you are lying when you tell us they do not exist.
It is not pretending. It is simply not being stupid.

All of law enforcement that is not controlled by Trump agrees with us and not you.
 
So try and be smart then Damo. Try and actually think.

Can the US then proclaim White Nationalism a terrorist group. if some of those groups take criminal and terrorist actions, and then criminalize everyone who identifies with it?

Anyone who then says they are a White Nationalist could be arrested just as if the Proud Boys was declared a terrorist organization, its members could be arrested?

Is that you are equating White Nationalism, Antifa and the Hells Angels. Like when the police are doing a sweep of all Hells Angels.

If you think that you are stupid. They can and would arrest all Hells Angels with that declaration but not everyone who identifies as WHite Nationalist nor Against Fascism.
Like I said. We must ignore the evidence before our eyes or QP Herman is going to call us stupid and pretend that White Nationalist groups don't exist... because... well... he really wants you to agree. And he's willing to pretend that because they are not centralized they don't "really" exist...

They have branding, they have aps, they are organized, they really do exist.

Either we ignore the evidence before our own eyes, we ignore the actions of the people who meet under these banners or, *gulp*, an idiot will call us stupid.... Super scary...

I reject the concept that I must ignore what I see to believe what you insist I believe.
 
ZOMG there are people against China. I saw them march in a parade.

THEY EXIST. I saw them says @Damo therefore they are an organization. They even sold paraphernalia at the parade with symbols and shit.

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ZOMG there are people against Russia and the Ukraine war. I saw them march in a parade.

THEY EXIST. I saw them says @Damo therefore they are an organization.
They even sold paraphernalia at the parade with symbols and shit.


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/Damoclese level stupidity
 
Like I said. We must ignore the evidence before our eyes or QP Herman is going to call us stupid and pretend that White Nationalist groups don't exist... because... well... he really wants you to agree. And he's willing to pretend that because they are not centralized they don't "really" exist...

They have branding, they have aps, they are organized, they really do exist.

Either we ignore the evidence before our own eyes, we ignore the actions of the people who meet under these banners or, *gulp*, an idiot will call us stopid.
Ya see my post above as i saw both those parades this summer with my own eyes in my town so therefore hurrrr durrrr they must be organizations.
 
ZoMG a group of ukraine supporters and people against the Russian war gathered. I SEE THEM.

Therefore they are an organization. / @Damocles level stupidity




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THey have branding ^^^

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^^^ they have merch

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^^ they have apps.
 
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Ya see my post above as i saw both those parades this summer with my own eyes in my town so therefore hurrrr durrrr they must be organizations.
LOL. Seriously I really am laughing. You think we're still in Middle School and you can mock things you don't like away by pretending all the "cool kids" don't believe it.

You argue like a child, and expect validation even so. There is a reason I rarely interact with you, I like people that are challenging. You think repetition is the same thing as intelligence. I get that you don't want them to exist for some reason. Likely because the activities are unpleasant and sometimes illegal and violent... but reality doesn't change because you repetitively insist something is true.

He thrusts his fists against the posts, but still insists they are just ghosts.
 
LOL. Seriously I really am laughing. You think we're still in Middle School and you can mock things you don't like away by pretending all the "cool kids" don't believe it.

You argue like a child, and expect validation even so. There is a reason I rarely interact with you, I like people that are challenging. You think repetition is the same thing as intelligence. I get that you don't want them to exist for some reason. Likely because the activities are unpleasant and sometimes illegal and violent... but reality doesn't change because you repetitively insist something is true.

He thrusts his fists against the posts, but still insists they are just ghosts.
And yet you are stuck on stupid.

I literally show you groups of people who share a common belief that they are against Putins Russia war in ukraine.

They have:

- Organization (parades, marches, protests)
- they have merch
- they have apps

Everything you say 'hurrr durrr, i can see it with my eyes therefore they are basically the same as the KKK or Hells Angels or Proud boys'.

You only think that as you are stupid. And you laugh because you are an imbecile.

People 'against the Russian war in Ukraine' ARE NOT an organization such that Trump or his DOJ could label them a terrorist or criminal organization in the way you could the Proud Boys, Hells Angels or KKK.

Be less stupid
 
And yet you are stuck on stupid.

I literally show you groups of people who share a common belief that they are against Putins Russia war in ukraine.

They have:

- Organization (parades, marches, protests)
- they have merch
- they have apps

Everything you say 'hurrr durrr, i can see it with my eyes therefore they are basically the same as the KKK or Hells Angels or Proud boys'.

You only think that as you are stupid. And you laugh because you are an imbecile.

People 'against the Russian war in Ukraine' ARE NOT an organization such that Trump or his DOJ could label them a terrorist or criminal organization in the way you could the Proud Boys, Hells Angels or KKK.

Be less stupid
And here he is again, just saying. "If you believe this, you aren't cool like the rest of us cool kids." Repetition... You're like a commercial, but without the tasty cereal. "If you eat this stuff we're feeding you, everybody will think you are cool."

You really are the PeeWee Herman of JPP. Repeating the same things over and over does not make them true even when you really want them to be true. We reject the idea that we should ignore what we see and replace it with what you want us to believe.
 
Does Christianity exist?

Does it have merch? Are there apps?

Have there been individuals and groups who have committed both crimes and terrorists acts in the name of Christianity?

Can you see them with your eyes like hurrr durrrr @Damocles ?

Yes to all the above.

So does that mean if a individual or group does a crime or terrorist attack in the name of Christianity that Trump could label 'Christianity' a terrorist group or criminal organization and thus implicate all who follow it.

Damoclese would say yes but only because he is stupid.
 
And here he is again, just saying. "If you believe this, you aren't cool like the rest of us cool kids." Repetition... You're like a commercial, but without the tasty cereal. "If you eat this stuff we're feeding you, everybody will think you are cool."

You really are the PeeWee Herman of JPP. Repeating the same things over and over does not make them true even when you really want them to be true. We reject the idea that we should ignore what we see and replace it with what you want us to believe.

Do you believe it of the people "Against the Russian war', who organize and march to show their alignment on the subject? WHo sell merch and create Apps?

IN your view does that make them the same as those Against Fascism, The Hells Angels and the Proud Boys?

If not tell me what makes those "against the Ukraine war' different from those 'against fascism'?
 
Does Christianity exist?

Does it have merch? Are there apps?

Have there been individuals and groups who have committed both crimes and terrorists acts in the name of Christianity?

Can you see them with your eyes like hurrr durrrr @Damocles ?

Yes to all the above.

So does that mean if a individual or group does a crime or terrorist attack in the name of Christianity that Trump could label 'Christianity' a terrorist group or criminal organization and thus implicate all who follow it.

Damoclese would say yes but only because he is stupid.
Does this mean that a group who does a terrorist act in the name of their group exists? Yes. They exist even if we find them obscene. Though I don't know why you would use Christianity, I do not care if you think groups that commit terrorism in the name of Christianity exist or not...

Antifa is not Christianity. It doesn't equal Christianity in any way. But what we do know is that Antifa Terrorists exist, because we've seen the results of their activity.

At least we've gotten you to the point that you understand that these groups exist. Now to get you past the idea that they are imaginary simply because you've been told to repeat it and think other people won't think you are "cool" if you believe what you see with your own eyes.
 
When a decentralized movement exists, it continues to exist even if you repeatedly declare it does not. This magical disappearing movement is a "fever-dream" of leftists everywhere.

Saying it doesn't exist is just another way of telling us all to stop believing our lying eyes and just believe what you danged well tell us to believe... It's just idiocy, rebaked, a bit burned, and collapsed because you killed the yeast.
Is anyone denying that it exists? It's a movement. It is not an organization acting in such ways as MAGA insists.
 
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