Anybody here think trump's healthcare "plan" is real?

Name one thing Trump has advocated for that has benefited the American Stupid, just one thing? And killing and tossin immigrants to the streets don't count!!
 
So far, all the Democrats have managed to do is increase government involvement in health insurance and care to the point it is unaffordable for most Americans unless it is subsidized with hundreds of billions in taxpayer money. Some success that is...
Trump managed to get 1.4 million people off of healthcare so far. That's the kind of success that you seek. Is there anyone who does not know the answer to our healthcare problems is universal care with insurance companies gone? The ACA was a first step toward it, but year after year the Insurance companies and hospital conglomerates are looting us, worse and worse.
 
Trump managed to get 1.4 million people off of healthcare so far.
Off of government run or government subsidized health insurance.

That's the kind of success that you seek.

Yes. Government has no business being in the health care or insurance business to begin with.
Is there anyone who does not know the answer to our healthcare problems is universal care with insurance companies gone?

Me for one. Universal care results in poorer outcomes at higher costs.
The ACA was a first step toward it, but year after year the Insurance companies and hospital conglomerates are looting us, worse and worse.
The ACA dramatically raised the cost of health insurance policies bought by individuals. It limited choice and often resulted in poorer outcomes.

The more government gets involved in healthcare, the more you'll see costs rise and rationing come into effect.
 
Off of government run or government subsidized health insurance.



Yes. Government has no business being in the health care or insurance business to begin with.


Me for one. Universal care results in poorer outcomes at higher costs.

The ACA dramatically raised the cost of health insurance policies bought by individuals. It limited choice and often resulted in poorer outcomes.

The more government gets involved in healthcare, the more you'll see costs rise and rationing come into effect.
You are, as normal, wrong. Universal healthcare in the other industrial countries is a fraction of our cost with BETTER results https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/fund-reports/2024/sep/mirror-mirror-2024
For profit healthcare results in tiered quality and access. I don't believe you are too stupid to know this. I have to wonder why you lie about so many things.
 
You are, as normal, wrong. Universal healthcare in the other industrial countries is a fraction of our cost with BETTER results https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/fund-reports/2024/sep/mirror-mirror-2024
For profit healthcare results in tiered quality and access. I don't believe you are too stupid to know this. I have to wonder why you lie about so many things.
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Read that goddamn study! There is only ONE measure on it for outcomes. The US comes in first or second in OUTCOMES. The other 98% of the study measures how socialized the system is and how well it performs as a socialized medicine system.

That is to say, the study is all but FUCKING WORTHLESS. It is an exercise in political advocacy for socialized medicine.
 
Trump managed to get 1.4 million people off of healthcare so far. That's the kind of success that you seek. Is there anyone who does not know the answer to our healthcare problems is universal care with insurance companies gone? The ACA was a first step toward it, but year after year the Insurance companies and hospital conglomerates are looting us, worse and worse.
Yup. Exactly correct, Nordberg. Just thought I would repeat it and give it a bit more highlighting so the MAGA morons could see it better.


Trump managed to get 1.4 million people off of healthcare so far. That's the kind of success that you seek. Is there anyone who does not know the answer to our healthcare problems is universal care with insurance companies gone? The ACA was a first step toward it, but year after year the Insurance companies and hospital conglomerates are looting us, worse and worse.
 
Off of government run or government subsidized health insurance.



Yes. Government has no business being in the health care or insurance business to begin with.


Me for one. Universal care results in poorer outcomes at higher costs.

The ACA dramatically raised the cost of health insurance policies bought by individuals. It limited choice and often resulted in poorer outcomes.

The more government gets involved in healthcare, the more you'll see costs rise and rationing come into effect.
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Silly you.
 
Uh huh. We all believe that too, LOL. You're too fixated on it to be anything
I just like watching your response. You can tell you know you screwed up when you decided to have a giant GOP mascot on your back. What is going to be next, a giant tattoo of Trump on your chest?

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Dear fucking idiot,

All the top nations of the world does government delivered health care

They all pay less than Americans do for that health care


And their health outcomes are better than Americans

You hate America so much you think we are not smart enough to put those nations healthcare costs and outcomes To shame with an American built national plan

You have a traitorous and hate filled mindset

Fuck you very much
They all have worse medical care and longer waiting times, too.
 
They all have worse medical care and longer waiting times, too.
Bullshit.

Here are one set of rankings for best healthcare in the world.

  1. Taiwan (78.72)
  2. South Korea (77.7)
  3. Australia (74.11)
  4. Canada (71.32)
  5. Sweden (70.73)
  6. Ireland (67.99)
  7. Netherlands (65.38)
  8. Germany (64.66)
  9. Norway (64.63)
  10. Israel (61.73)
  11. Belgium (60.16)
  12. Switzerland (59.6)
  13. Japan (59.52)
  14. Singapore (57.96)
  15. United States (56.71)
  16. Austria (54.86)
  17. United Arab Emirates (52.3)
  18. Czech Republic (52.25)
  19. Finland (52.1)
  20. Portugal (51.99)

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Bullshit.

Here are one set of rankings for best healthcare in the world.

  1. Taiwan (78.72)
  2. South Korea (77.7)
  3. Australia (74.11)
  4. Canada (71.32)
  5. Sweden (70.73)
  6. Ireland (67.99)
  7. Netherlands (65.38)
  8. Germany (64.66)
  9. Norway (64.63)
  10. Israel (61.73)
  11. Belgium (60.16)
  12. Switzerland (59.6)
  13. Japan (59.52)
  14. Singapore (57.96)
  15. United States (56.71)
  16. Austria (54.86)
  17. United Arab Emirates (52.3)
  18. Czech Republic (52.25)
  19. Finland (52.1)
  20. Portugal (51.99)

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According to whom, you raisined up fucknugget? :rolleyes2:
 
Here is the cost factor:

Health expenditures per capita, U.S. dollars, 2023 (current prices and PPP adjusted)​

United States $13,432

Switzerland $9,688

Germany $8,441

Austria $7,811

Netherlands $7,737

Sweden $7,522

Comparable Country Average $7,393

Belgium $7,380

France $7,136

Canada $7,013

Australia $6,931


United Kingdom $6,023

Japan $5,640

Notes: Data from Australia, Belgium, Japan, the Netherlands, Switzerland, and United States are estimated. Data from Austria, Canada, France, Germany, Sweden and the United Kingdom are provisional.

 
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