AP poll: Majority harbor prejudice against blacks

There it is! Hi white guilt.

Here's my view on racism, and it's probably going to get me flamed by legion, since he calls me a racist no matter what. Overt Racism is bad, beating up gays with baseball bats, shooting Sikh Temples, lynching black people, shooting Latinos, all bad. Covert Racism is bad behavior, making snide jokes about race and religion, is something that should not be encouraged. Cultural attitudes are slightly dumb, views on blacks as better athletes, Jews as better bankers, Muslims as hostile and zealous, not true but very built into the media driven society. And then below that, we have our "micro expressions" where seeing a face triggers a reaction, Gonna say this right now, if I see a four hundred pound Samoan, I am definitely going to be more wary of him that a four hundred pound white guy, instant situation assessment, and as long as I don't wander up to him and start making racial comments, I don't think he has any position to complain. Live and let live, don't try to police thoughts and don't try to force super political correctness because you're going to alienate more than you help.

What you are saying dovetails with something I have always said. All people have "prejudice" it's hard-wired into us as humans. We can't change that, it's part of the human condition. Everyone has preferences regarding the type of people or culture they associate with and relate to. There's nothing wrong with this, it makes us human. It is when those prejudices become bigoted and based on stereotype, we have a problem. Racism is the thought or belief that one race is superior or inferior to another, and this is borne from bigoted stereotypes, and ignorantly wrong.

That being said, when we encounter issues like "Affirmative Action" we actually see an underlying racist viewpoint in play. The idea or thought, that a certain race of people are inferior and require some degree of "extra help" to offset this inferiority. It pisses off liberals when I ask them, "Just how long do we have to give special advantages to blacks before they are equal to whites?" (...I'm usually in my Willy Wonka pose when I do this, you have to be there.) But the point is, these antiquated ideas are a throwback to a time when racism was widespread, and are actually the byproduct of racial stereotyping, which continues on today. LBJ, a white liberal good ol' boy from Texas, was certainly not devoid of racism, let's not be silly. He is the forefather of White Liberal Guilt. His policies, many still in place today, were designed to placate and patronize black people, instead of recognizing them as equals.

Blacks historically support Democrats because Democrats endorse policy specifically tailored to blacks, to give the blacks some advantage over everyone else. Republicans don't single out blacks for special favor, they view us all as equal Americans, entitled to opportunity on an equal basis, not favoritism because of what color you are. From the black man's perspective, are you more satisfied with actually earning your achievements on merit or does it mean the same to you if the achievements are the result of tables being tilted in your favor? I say this as someone who is 1/16 black and 1/8 Native American, I am much more satisfied in knowing I achieved my success on my own, without special favor. I expect equality in opportunity, not advantage. I could personally claim my Native American ancestry and receive all sorts of governmental benefits, casino shares, educational perks, etc., but I never have applied for these, because I want to achieve my success on merit, not because of what I am.
 
According to the calculator, using a population size of 300 million and 99% confidence level, the margin of error would be +/-4% points with the current sample size.
 
There it is! Hi white guilt.

Here's my view on racism, and it's probably going to get me flamed by legion, since he calls me a racist no matter what. Overt Racism is bad, beating up gays with baseball bats, shooting Sikh Temples, lynching black people, shooting Latinos, all bad. Covert Racism is bad behavior, making snide jokes about race and religion, is something that should not be encouraged. Cultural attitudes are slightly dumb, views on blacks as better athletes, Jews as better bankers, Muslims as hostile and zealous, not true but very built into the media driven society. And then below that, we have our "micro expressions" where seeing a face triggers a reaction, Gonna say this right now, if I see a four hundred pound Samoan, I am definitely going to be more wary of him that a four hundred pound white guy, instant situation assessment, and as long as I don't wander up to him and start making racial comments, I don't think he has any position to complain. Live and let live, don't try to police thoughts and don't try to force super political correctness because you're going to alienate more than you help.

There it is! Hi strawman.

Where is there any indication of white guilt?

I am not discussing any past injustices but racial and cultural (goes beyond skin color) bias and how they factor into issues that affect us today. Every issue you mentioned is impacted by them.

Again, nobody is up in arms about eliminating the "micro expressions" you continue to refer to. That's not the point and has nothing to do with the point or why anyone might take interest in this study. Just because one harbors some racial/cultural bias does not make them a bad person. As individuals, we should be aware of how they can affect us. As a society we should be concerned that they are on the rise.
 
Why, because your halfrican American president might not get reelected?

It is quite obvious who is taking this discussion personally and has some sort of investment in it.

Race issues exist independent of Obama. The GOP was filled with flag waving (wrong one) racists before Obama and will be after his presidency has ended.

Even outside of politics these issues are important because they create cultural tension.
 
It is quite obvious who is taking this discussion personally and has some sort of investment in it.

Race issues exist independent of Obama. The GOP was filled with flag waving (wrong one) racists before Obama and will be after his presidency has ended.

Even outside of politics these issues are important because they create cultural tension.

I am just mocking you because you conveniently ignore or are unaware of the democrat parties racist past. So you are not to be taken seriously. You are just a step above the Jello Troll
 
I am just mocking you because you conveniently ignore or are unaware of the democrat parties racist past. So you are not to be taken seriously. You are just a step above the Jello Troll

This was a discussion concerning the history of race politics? Hmmm, I must have missed that. Yeah, Robert Byrd... ha... You need to freshen up the act.
 
According to the calculator, using a population size of 300 million and 99% confidence level, the margin of error would be +/-4% points with the current sample size.

Well how about that. In the second link I gave, the researchers said:

"In the 2012 survey, no more than one time in 20 should chance variations in the sample cause results to vary more than plus or minus 3.8 percentage points from the answers that would have been obtained if all adults in the U.S. were surveyed."


IOW, .2 less than the 4% you said. Better now?
 
'An estimated 201.5 million U.S. citizens age 18 or over will be
eligible to vote Nov. 2, although many are not now registered. Of
these, about 55 million are registered Republicans. About 72 million
registered Democrats.

Pew Research Center also says in more than 13,000 interviews conducted so far in 2012,
35% of registered voters identify with the Democratic Party,
28% with the Republican Party and
33% as independents.


Logic tells us that in an unbiased survey, at good portion of these bigots MUST have been registered Democrats and Independents....so
lets not jump to conclusions that cannot be proven one way or the other.....
we all know that bias exists and probably always will.....and that bias exists in the black and asian communities too.....
even between different cultures within the same race.

This is why playing the race card for every and all disagreement with the Obama administration is lame at best....though that doesn't seem to register with the left.
There are issues in play that have absolutely nothing to do with the presidents race.

:rolleyes: I'm sure if there was a study that showed the opposite you'd be all over it. And FYI, I've been spending time trying to find such a study and so far, coming up empty so maybe you and your pals can help me out here. As I said before, it would be great to find something that refutes this.
 
No I called the fact that once it dawned on you libtardiots that Odummycocksucker and Plugs Biden were going to lose you would run immediately to the race card.

You can't understand why anyone wouldn't vote for your boy and love him and be devoted to him like you are. So you have no choice but to blame "racism" and try to spook people.

The first halfrican American president is finished

"Odummycocksucker", what would that be, the vulgar white-trash card?
 
No, Christie, liberals are actually still crazy and playing the race card. Also, since it needs to be said ever now and again:

FUCK THE LEFT

Oooh, sensitive.

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:rolleyes: I'm sure if there was a study that showed the opposite you'd be all over it. And FYI, I've been spending time trying to find such a study and so far, coming up empty so maybe you and your pals can help me out here. As I said before, it would be great to find something that refutes this.

The study makes no difference at all....the demographics remain what they are.....
I don't think you can refute it.....its probably fairly accurate.....and so are the conclusions I've come to with the demographics......

There is discrimination now and there was in the past....and there always will be to one degree or another....

Is Jesse Jackson a racist ?

"There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved. . . .Jesse Jackson


Just imagine if a white had uttered these very same words......the pinheads like we see on this forum would be calling him or her a racist, bigot and every vile name under the sun for doing nothing more than speaking the truth.....just as Mr. Jackson spoke the truth.....
 
The study makes no difference at all....the demographics remain what they are.....
I don't think you can refute it.....its probably fairly accurate.....and so are the conclusions I've come to with the demographics......

There is discrimination now and there was in the past....and there always will be to one degree or another....

Is Jesse Jackson a racist ?

"There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved. . . .Jesse Jackson


Just imagine if a white had uttered these very same words......the pinheads like we see on this forum would be calling him or her a racist, bigot and every vile name under the sun for doing nothing more than speaking the truth.....just as Mr. Jackson spoke the truth.....

I discriminate and I profile and it keeps me quite happy. My children were taught to do the same. Liberals do it too. They just lie about it
 
The study makes no difference at all....the demographics remain what they are.....
I don't think you can refute it.....its probably fairly accurate.....and so are the conclusions I've come to with the demographics......

There is discrimination now and there was in the past....and there always will be to one degree or another....

Is Jesse Jackson a racist ?

"There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved. . . .Jesse Jackson


Just imagine if a white had uttered these very same words......the pinheads like we see on this forum would be calling him or her a racist, bigot and every vile name under the sun for doing nothing more than speaking the truth.....just as Mr. Jackson spoke the truth.....

don't let christie fool you, this was just a survey, not a study, despite her efforts to convince people otherwise
 
AP poll: Majority of Americans harbor prejudice against blacks



Racial attitudes have not improved in the four years since the United States elected its first black president, an Associated Press poll finds, as a majority of Americans now express prejudice toward blacks whether they recognize those feelings or not.


The same respondents were also administered a survey designed to measure implicit racism, in which a photo of a black, Hispanic or white male flashed on the screen before a neutral image of a Chinese character.


The respondents were then asked to rate their feelings toward the Chinese character.


Previous research has shown that people transfer their feelings about the photo onto the character, allowing researchers to measure racist feelings even if a respondent does not acknowledge them.


Results from those questions were analyzed with poll takers' ages, partisan beliefs, views on Obama and Romney and other factors, which allowed researchers to predict the likelihood that people would vote for either Obama or Romney.


http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/national-politics/20121027-ap-poll-majority-of-americans-harbor-prejudice-against-blacks.ece
 
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