April 18, no more masks at airports and planes

Phantasmal said:
It was the virus overwhelming our hospitals and even though not lethal, wiping out the work force by sick people being off work, sometimes for a long length of time, that is what the neurotic clowns on the left were able to grasp while the right didn’t care.
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Anyone who supports having a workforce/economy should have been against lockdowns.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I think re airtravel the bigger issues are that masks dont do much of anything re SARS-COV2 transmission, and that airplanes have far better air systems than buildings potentially, depending upon the settings.
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True. Ever since, at least Xi/Omicron, masks have been an irrelevant mitigation tool. Even before Delta, cloth masks were always considered to be ineffective.
 
Gin Saké said:
True. Ever since, at least Xi/Omicron, masks have been an irrelevant mitigation tool. Even before Delta, cloth masks were always considered to be ineffective.
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Originally it looked like extensive masking would cut transmission by about 10%, but the evidence is in, they dont even do that.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Originally it looked like extensive masking would cut transmission by about 10%, but the evidence is in, they dont even do that.
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I was all for masking, distancing, and COVID cleaning protocols, because they are relatively unrestrictive measures with regard to people's livelihood and social order.
 
Gin Saké said:
I was all for masking, distancing, and COVID cleaning protocols, because they are relatively unrestrictive measures with regard to people's livelihood and social order.
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The problem of course is that none of those work, and there was never any evidence that they would work.
 
Gin Saké said:
No one who is capable of grasping the low lethality rate of COVID cares about the neurotic clowns on the left, and anything they have to say.

Welcome to America. We hate being inconvenienced.
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How many sick and dead are acceptable to you? We have passed a million deaths and you still say it is no big deal. Nothing neurotic about not wanting to spread covid and other diseases to strangers we encounter. It is called consideration and respect. I know, to rightys those are fighting words. Only weak leftys care about such things. I am one of them.
 
Even after a federal judge ruled Monday against the CDC’s federal travel mask mandate, a new poll from AP-NORC shows that 56 percent of respondents favored forced masking on planes and other forms of public transportation. Twenty-four percent oppose such mandates, while another 20 percent have no opinion. (Who the heck doesn’t have an opinion at this point?!)
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https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2022/0...cent-dems-support-travel-mask-mandate-n553423



America, land of the ignorant coward.
 
On the other hand I have very little confidence that pollsters are trying to tell the truth about reality, the WOKE Religion is not interested in that, they are into mind molding, and everything is fair in the war to get to UTOPIA.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
On the other hand I have very little confidence that pollsters are trying to tell the truth about reality, the WOKE Religion is not interested in that, they are into mind molding, and everything is fair in the war to get to UTOPIA.
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You should chat more with Sybil. He thinks we live in a nightmare world where the US government has already be overthrown. Something like this:

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Nordberg said:
How many sick and dead are acceptable to you? We have passed a million deaths and you still say it is no big deal. Nothing neurotic about not wanting to spread covid and other diseases to strangers we encounter. It is called consideration and respect. I know, to rightys those are fighting words. Only weak leftys care about such things. I am one of them.
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Another MAGA record! https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

No doubt they can all look back on these years and deny they had even voted for Trump. LOL
 
Nordberg said:
How many sick and dead are acceptable to you? We have passed a million deaths and you still say it is no big deal. Nothing neurotic about not wanting to spread covid and other diseases to strangers we encounter. It is called consideration and respect. I know, to rightys those are fighting words. Only weak leftys care about such things. I am one of them.
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No it's not. You progs got to exercise all of that power you so desperately crave, and we still had a million deaths. Well done.
 
anonymoose said:
I was just told this by a TSA guy when going thru security at the Kona airport.
I don’t think polysquawker or concart will ever travel by airlines again.
I put this in politics because that’s all masks, shutdowns and mandates have ever been about
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Back in the 90's I spent more time in the air-than I did on the ground. But hey, the job paid well!

It was also a time when I had colds and flu's more than any other time in my life. Just get over one and come down with another!

I got to where I hated flying, because of all the people coughing, sneezing, throwing up, and farting on those planes in such close quarters.

It was like a germ incubator! 200 people packed in like fucking sardines in a can!

Today, I don't care to ever fly again, so this is a non-issue for me. Hell, I'd probably rather be riding me Harley now days anyways.

But, if I ever end up having to fly again- I don't even think I'll bother to wear a flimsy mask- I think I'll just wear a space suit instead!

For all of you frequent flyers- my sympathy goes out to you!
 
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T. A. Gardner said:
The evidence I looked at put it at maybe--MAYBE-- 1 to 2%, if that.
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I'd love to see the source of your data. :)

From 2007 before a bunch of fucking morons politicized a pandemic:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23498357/
Findings: Live influenza virus was measurable from the air behind all surgical masks tested. The data indicate that a surgical mask will reduce exposure to aerosolised infectious influenza virus; reductions ranged from 1.1- to 55-fold (average 6-fold), depending on the design of the mask.

Conclusion: We describe a workable method to evaluate the protective efficacy of surgical masks and RPDs against a relevant aerosolised biological challenge. The results demonstrated limitations of surgical masks in this context, although they are to some extent protective.

Crown Copyright © 2013. Published by Elsevier Ltd. All rights reserved.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7253999/
This meta-analysis of the 21 studies provided the latest state-of-art evidence on the efficacy of masks in preventing the transmission of RVIs. Our data show that the protective effects of masks against RVIs were not only significant for both HCWs and non-HCWs, but also consistent between Asian and Western populations.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I'd love to see the source of your data. :)

From 2007 before a bunch of fucking morons politicized a pandemic:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23498357/
Findings: Live influenza virus was measurable from the air behind all surgical masks tested. The data indicate that a surgical mask will reduce exposure to aerosolised infectious influenza virus; reductions ranged from 1.1- to 55-fold (average 6-fold), depending on the design of the mask.

Conclusion: We describe a workable method to evaluate the protective efficacy of surgical masks and RPDs against a relevant aerosolised biological challenge. The results demonstrated limitations of surgical masks in this context, although they are to some extent protective.

Crown Copyright © 2013. Published by Elsevier Ltd. All rights reserved.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7253999/
This meta-analysis of the 21 studies provided the latest state-of-art evidence on the efficacy of masks in preventing the transmission of RVIs. Our data show that the protective effects of masks against RVIs were not only significant for both HCWs and non-HCWs, but also consistent between Asian and Western populations.
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As we are told constantly that we need to obey when Fauci et al say "I have looked at the data, I know, shut up".

"To doubt me is to attack science"
Fauci
 
Hawkeye10 said:
As we are told constantly that we need to obey when Fauci et al say "I have looked at the data, I know, shut up".

"To doubt me is to attack science"
Fauci
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You should move to Texas, #10. Nobody told us we have to obey Fauci.

BTW, do you drink because you have a physical or mental ailment or just because you like to drink?

For the Sane and Sober:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlie...s-on-me-quite-frankly-are-attacks-on-science/
Dr. Anthony Fauci fired back against criticism by Republican lawmakers Wednesday, insisting his guidance throughout the coronavirus pandemic has been based on scientific evidence and that “science and truth are being attacked.”

“Attacks on me, quite frankly, are attacks on science,” Fauci said Wednesday. “All of the things I have spoken about, consistently, from the very beginning, have been fundamentally based on science. Sometimes those things were inconvenient truths for people.”
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Back in the 90's I spent more time in the air-than I did on the ground. But hey, the job paid well!

It was also a time when I had colds and flu's more than any other time in my life. Just get over one and come down with another!

I got to where I hated flying, because of all the people coughing, sneezing, throwing up, and farting on those planes in such close quarters.

It was like a germ incubator! 200 people packed in like fucking sardines in a can!

Today, I don't care to ever fly again, so this is a non-issue for me. Hell, I'd probably rather be riding me Harley now days anyways.

But, if I ever end up having to fly again- I don't even think I'll bother to wear a flimsy mask- I think I'll just wear a space suit instead!

For all of you frequent flyers- my sympathy goes out to you!
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I do a one hour flight to and from Bethel, AK about once month - like riding the bus, NBD except I always go 1st class for about $35 extra so i sit up front with a cup of red wine which lasts most of the flight. So my mask was not on much anyways.
 
anonymoose said:
I do a one hour flight to and from Bethel, AK about once month - like riding the bus, NBD except I always go 1st class for about $35 extra so i sit up front with a cup of red wine which lasts most of the flight. So my mask was not on much anyways.
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First class is the only way to fly- NO ONE SHOULD EVER HAVE TO RIDE IN THE CATTLE CAR!
 
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