Atmospheric CO2 hits landmark 415 ppm
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reagansghost
eternal
the planet's hosed
at this point it doesn't matter that 30% of Americans are too stupid to get it............the multi-nationals running the world economy will add more CO2 to make more money whether those assholes get it or not, and China is still bringing coal plants on line
I try to stay optimistic thinking maybe advanced carbon sequestration technology might come to be, but the MONEY to be made by big energy is the motivator for this insanity
at this point it doesn't matter that 30% of Americans are too stupid to get it............the multi-nationals running the world economy will add more CO2 to make more money whether those assholes get it or not, and China is still bringing coal plants on line
I try to stay optimistic thinking maybe advanced carbon sequestration technology might come to be, but the MONEY to be made by big energy is the motivator for this insanity
The Paris agreement reached international consensus that we have to leave as much remaining hydrocarbons in the ground as possible, and not extract and burn them.
So there is no question that scientists and world governments understand that adding tens of billions more tons of heat-trapping greenhouse gases to the atmosphere is a non-starter.
As you correctly point out, there is a powerful incentive for oligarchs and oil barons to want to extract and burn the remaining trillions of barrels of oil equivalent left in the ground. They are being asked to walk away from trillions of dollars in profit. That is a tough pill for them to swallow.
While the primary underlying causes of the climatic warming of the last century are well understood at this point, I do not think the science is settled on the ultimate consequences of global warming. Assessments range from marginally bad to catastrophic. I personally think it is better to err on the side of being conservative and preparing for the possibility of something approaching a worst case scenario. I also think most people forget to think about the upsides that come from reducing hydrocarbon pollution, perfecting and improving green energy sources, and economic benefit from new technologies and industries.
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
Good to know Australia's the culprit .
First the U.N. must propose sanctions against Australia. If that doesn't work we can propose a unified war effort against Australia to get their act together . Austalia vs. Rest of the World.
reagansghost
eternal
Looks to be in the 'catastrophic' range from here, pretty depressing stuff
'Brutal news': global carbon emissions jump to all-time high in 2018
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...arbon-emissions-jump-to-all-time-high-in-2018
‘Worrying’ rise in global CO2 forecast for 2019
...another Guardian article from 3 months back
trying hard not to be a pessimist here but......
You are fucking gullible. Easy to dupe. Look up what toxic levels of CO2 are.
I bet you talk to squirrels. Just a hunch.
Jade Dragon
And I'm the one that jaded you.
Even though I'm Christian, I've never much bought into the four horsemen. Human kind will make it's own undoing. In perspective the Biblical way may have been less slow, and painful.
The fourth horseman is my favorite.
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
The issue isn't toxicity; the issue is increasing amounts of CO2 accelerating climate change. You yourself have said that you in your journeys around the globe you've seen plenty of evidence of climate change. What is the issue to you -- economics?
Of course toxicity is the issue. That is exactly what is trying to be hyped here. Wrongly as usual. There is climate change. No doubt about it. Hyping it (usually for profit and grants) and making it sound like Armageddon is not helping. If anything it is hurting it.
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
Sounds like the problem is self-correcting.
We could thaw out the fish and bring THEM to the bbq as well.
Surf and Turf! Yowzah!
Nice work.
I am actually totally fine with Denier jokes about Al Gore needing to take sail boats instead of jets, cow farts, et al.
Because when we are down to cracking jokes about global warming it tells me the science is settled, and there is no serious and credible body of science that refutes the human impact on climate.
Where we end up is what reputable climate scientists were saying more than a decade ago: it is unequivocal that the Earth system is warming, we know with a extremely high degree of scientific confidence that most of the recent warming is due to human activities, and we have reasonable scientific confidence that adverse impacts to humans, the environment, and ecosystems will range from moderately bad to catastrophically bad.